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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:50 am Post subject: Average salary? |
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| It should be obvious the average salary is about 2.0 million won -per month. Is that your impression? Who makes more or less? This all has probably been covered before. Sorry if nothing new. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I make 2.45 |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Average salary? |
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| jajdude wrote: |
| It should be obvious the average salary is about 2.0 million won -per month. Is that your impression? Who makes more or less? This all has probably been covered before. Sorry if nothing new. |
It would be more correct to say starting salary at an academy. |
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Juggertha
Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'd have to slightly dissagree. 2.0 is expected with a modicum of experience.. while about 1.8 would be for those new to the field.
personally i'm at 2.5, but thats another story |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think it also depends on the location of your school/university, not just experience, as to what you may expect for a starting salary.
I'm at 2.2 and in the country just outside of Seoul.
Cheers |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Think there is more than just salary per se.
Like how many hours do you work for that salary?
Do you get housing with that salary?
Do you get a severence?
Did you get a plane ticket? Will you get a return ticket?
For hawgwons that give housing, it seems about 2mil is average but the amount you have to work for that is a hell of a lot. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| There are so many variables involved here, chiefly the issue of vacation time. What is it worth to you? Or am I just picking on the hoagwonners. Damn, after a million years as one look at me all snobby and shite. Aiesh. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
Think there is more than just salary per se.
Like how many hours do you work for that salary?
Do you get housing with that salary?
Do you get a severence?
Did you get a plane ticket? Will you get a return ticket?
For hawgwons that give housing, it seems about 2mil is average but the amount you have to work for that is a hell of a lot. |
30 hours a week isn't a "hell of a lot". However if you were/are used to that it may seem like that. Try teaching back home though. With all the prep, marking, and extra-curricular activities, it's more than 30 hours a week. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
30 hours a week isn't a "hell of a lot". However if you were/are used to that it may seem like that. Try teaching back home though. With all the prep, marking, and extra-curricular activities, it's more than 30 hours a week. |
Similarly, 30 hours a week of classroom hours also require more than 30 hours a week of work, with prep, marking, monthly report cards, student interviews, staff meetings, etc. If you want to compare the working hours of public school teachers in the West to those of hogwon teachers in Korea, be sure to also include the several months of vacation time that Western public school teachers get to the two weeks the average hogwon teacher is lucky not to get screwed out of one way or another.
Unlike a teaching job back home, however, there is little incentive to excel by going the extra mile. There's no tenure, retirement plan, or other brass ring to go after. Just more of the same shit for a meager pay increase at the end of the contract if you're lucky.
Not to say that public school teachers don't have their own problems to contend with, but it's an apples to oranges comparison. |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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I always feel I should be making more than 2 million. But my hours are very light, all in the afternoon and evening, have a nice new clean pad of campus, can eat cheap in the schools cafeterias, free health club located in my dorm... dorm isn't locked down at night.....
For me after so long in Korea, the money does seem a bit low to what others have managed, but my life is on the simple side here...... and that is worth more than money right now. |
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Eazy_E
Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
Think there is more than just salary per se.
Like how many hours do you work for that salary?
Do you get housing with that salary?
Do you get a severence?
Did you get a plane ticket? Will you get a return ticket?
For hawgwons that give housing, it seems about 2mil is average but the amount you have to work for that is a hell of a lot. |
First of all, I think 30 hours per week (fairly standard in the hagwon industry) is a little too much if you want to deliver a good quality of teaching. I don't feel guilty about taking my 1.9 million home every month because I give a little extra and make sure I'm prepared for class, which can make it a fairly demanding job.
I got a return plane ticket without putting up any money of my own, and from what others have told me this is a really good benefit.
The severance of a month's pay is mandatory according to the law, so if you don't get this you're getting hooped royally. |
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ryleeys
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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I'm at 2mil... actually, my contract said 1.9, but then I got the first paycheck and it was for 2... you think I'm gonna open my mouth to correct that mistake? Not bloody likely. I work from about 9:30 - 4:30 with an hour long break and five 50 minute classes. Could be worse I guess. That includes prep time and post class time. Either way, I'm saving somewhere over US$1000 a month, so I'm working on a decent nest egg to pay the first few months expenses when I move back home. I guess it helps that I'm spending only 5,000 won per day on food... maybe 10,000 on weekends when I drink. My director appears to be paying my health insurance and taxes for me...
I'm so confused... she won't let me photocopy stuff or buy me the workbooks to go with my Let's Go student books, but she'll pay for the other stuff... |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Here's relative
I make 2.45 for 12 hours a week that includes my housing allowance.
8 weeks vacation
I'm in Seoul |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ryleeys wrote: |
| I'm so confused... she won't let me photocopy stuff or buy me the workbooks to go with my Let's Go student books, but she'll pay for the other stuff... |
So far as your conditions go, you're doing great for a first year contract.
Hogwon owners love to save miniscule amounts of money while completely forgetting to see the bigger picture. Trying to figure out why your director thinks it's a good idea to save W100 or so per class on photocopying costs while making it harder for you to improve the actual education that goes on in his classrooms is the sort of thing that can only drive you crazy. Try not to think about it. |
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ryleeys
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD
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| Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Too late... I'm already certifiably crazy... |
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