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Darashii

Joined: 08 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:39 am Post subject: Stalkers |
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Or, according to Koreans, "men you should just give a chance because they're so desperate and you're still single."
Has anyone ever had a stalker here? What did s/he do? What did you do?
A friend had one in Japan, but I never managed to get one until I came here. So far I've had two, and a couple of minutes ago, a whole NEW one decided to follow me home!
First one abused the privilege of having my number which I gave him over a year ago. I stopped answering and he stopped calling...until a month ago. He called from a new number and answered with "Do you know who this is?"
kuuuREEEP.
Second dude I met in the supermarket. He didn't seem odd and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But he also abused my phone number, as if I didn't have a job during the day, and started calling me "his" and asking random foreigners on the street where I lived. One of said foreigners actually gave him a hint, and then came to tell me about it. Douche. I changed my number and haven't heard from him...until...
Tonight, I came home and as I unlocked my door, I hear someone coming up the steps behind and it's...actually, I don't even remember supermarket dude's face, but he was Nigerian and he knew my name. So either it was him or another one. I just went inside, locked the door. He knocked a few times, "Excuse me!" and I finally got tired of hearing him and screamed "If I ever see your face again, I'll push you down my fucking stairs." I have really, really steep, deadly stairs outside my main door. He persisted for two more seconds and after more foul language, gave up.
I thought about calling the police, but I have a feeling they would have been like "Aren't you from Africa, too? Why don't you be friends!"
I'd be nice if they advised immigrant factory workers to not harass women on the street.... |
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Guri Guy

Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:57 am Post subject: |
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There are no anti-stalking laws in South Korea. I think they even have a saying "It takes ten whacks to fell a tree." The idea being that if you are persistent enough, it'll happen.
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Stalking is considered romantic here, on the whole.
Also, no offence to Nigerians, I know one nice one, but on the whole the Nigerians in Korea are either creeps or after your money or both. I suggest not giving your phone number to them.
Also, Nigerians don't work in factories here. I'm sure there's one or two who do, but on the whole they don't. Usually they buy stuff at dondaemun or namdaemun and ship it to Nigeria to sell there. They importer/exporter types. Very few are cool. Most want your money or, if you're a woman, your XXXX.
I suggest being more discriminate with your phone number in future. As a guy I have fewer problems, but every girl I know who's given their phone number to a Nigerian has received somewhere between one million and 100 million phone calls ever after. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Maybe they are really princes "pretending" to be the common factory worker. Ever see Coming To America?
I wonder, the first "stalker" you met, was he African also? |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Hey there! I really don't have much to contribute to here or really say, but...
I'm really sorry to hear about your troubles. Any gal that likes to ride automatically gets a lot of respect from me. Take care of yourself and be safe. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah what we'd call stalking, Korean women call "evidence he's interested in me".
My friend (a white woman with big hoots) was stalked by her neighbor, a married guy even. Geez. After it became apparent he was trying to gain entry via the bathroom window she went to her school owner and they went to the police. The police actually took her and the director to the guy's apartment to talk to him. The wife totally gave him a bs alibi. Must have been a mighty frosty moment after that door closed. Dot dot dot.
Anyway, all the neighbors see basically cops and a white woman go into his apartment. Kids, the ajumma gossip mill can work for you. The husband/wife had to move out in shame. What, with him having that Russian prostitute over all the time 'n' all.
(The guy and the wife actually moved out after my friend did. Her boss was actually a decent guy and got her a nicer place in a building with real security. They threw a white male into her apartment. Then again, that still might not have cooled his jets. Awful lot of Korean men who will make as much effort to see a white guy's meat rocket. God I hate the swear filter.) |
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Darashii

Joined: 08 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure Stalker #2 said he works in a factory. I'm not in Seoul, guys.
I think the Stalker #1 was from...Pakistan...? Perhaps North Africa.
I'm sure I've done all I can do, until I go to jail for stabbing a mofo.
I should get a dog.
EDIT: Mind, when I was in America, one night a policeman knocked on me and my roomie's door. Turned out there had been a peeping tom outside my window (and, yes, I had just finished showering) and the neighbors called. I was quite amused, since I'm a vain exhibitionist like that, but my roommate was extremely freaked out. She said that maybe she should buy a gun. I thought she was overreacting. I was even subpoenaed to show in court, but he pleaded guilty.
Ill! I almost moved to Ansan. I bet things would have been much worse if I had. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Darashii wrote: |
| EDIT: Mind, when I was in America, one night a policeman knocked on me and my roomie's door. Turned out there had been a peeping tom outside my window (and, yes, I had just finished showering) and the neighbors called. I was quite amused, since I'm a vain exhibitionist like that, but my roommate was extremely freaked out. She said that maybe she should buy a gun. I thought she was overreacting. I was even subpoenaed to show in court, but he pleaded guilty. |
The worry can come in that peeping toms and flashers move up the food chain. They get away with X and figure they can then get away with something more risky, eventually becoming rapists. |
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samcheokguy

Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Location: Samcheok G-do
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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stalking does seem to be largely, in theory, a modern western concept. Most countries it seems girls say no to EVERYTHING at least a half dozen times for fear of looking too easy.
-life. c'est bizzare. |
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Blockhead confidence
Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Yeah what we'd call stalking, Korean women call "evidence he's interested in me". |
Kind of a sad fact, that one.
Asking the question, 'how do you know a Korean girl isn't interested in you?' is like asking whether or not dogs play violins when we're not looking at them. Lack of enthusiasm is about as close as a man can get to guessing a Korean woman isn't in to him.
Somewhere, somehow, they're taught in their culture 'nice girls don't say "no"', and this is something taken advantage of by men both Korean and foreign. The word 'yes' has been called the feminine word, and nowhere have I found this more true than in Korea (but I guess it could be in other conservative cultures, too.).
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hugekebab

Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Stalkers |
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| Darashii wrote: |
First one abused the privilege of having my number |
Aren't we the little princess?  |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Stalking can be kinda romantic. Isn't that where unrequited love gets started? It depends really, as stalking can be quite a negative term in the West. Obviously stalking for evil purposes is not good. If your heart is in the right place then stalking is just a way to waste time chasing fantasies which may never come to fruition. |
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ppcg4

Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Yeah what we'd call stalking, Korean women call "evidence he's interested in me". |
So true. My ex always told me she liked guys who would follow her, wait for her after work, etc. |
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Darashii

Joined: 08 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think that if I had seen the peeping tom, I would probably feel differently, but after the fact was kinda like "Lucky bastard, I guess..."
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Aren't we the little princess? |
I didn't stutter. It must be a privilege if they get THAT overheated by having it.
Hell, I've stalked before, but I didn't think of it as stalking. It was supposed to be "I really like you and must find a way to make you mine!" but then I turned...uh...into a grown-up.
And yet what these stalkers/admirers forget is that....I AM NOT KOREAN. And in the words of Whoopi: "I've been to Africa... I'm not African-American.... I'm Black." |
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Illysook
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| Hell, I've stalked before, but I didn't think of it as stalking. It was supposed to be "I really like you and must find a way to make you mine!" but then I turned...uh...into a grown-up. |
Due to the fact that you "turned into a grown-up" I'm pretty sure that you weren't actually stalking this person. You may have been a bit of a pest, and you may have embarrassed yourself, but you realized when it was time to stop pursuing someone who didn't return your affections.
Real stalkers do not know how to quit and they are willing to resort to violence to get even a little bit of the wrong kind of attention.
Unfortunately, we now a society full of drama queens who have made it so that nice, ordinary guys who are willing to be patient or persistant with shy women, get to feel like they are the jerks.
I'm a woman who actually likes men. We actually exist and we think that it's nice when guys are a little persistent. When we do not find ourselves returning your affections, we will kindly and clearly say that we are not interested, so that you will not continue to pursue us, only to end up feeling like pests, or stalkers.
To the OP, I don't think that you are one of the drama queens that I just mentioned. You sound credible and I believe you. I am sorry that this happened to you. |
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