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yingwenlaoshi
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 Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:54 pm Post subject: I like ending class two or three minutes early |
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| Yes, I do. Gives me time to have a smoke and then ten minutes for the next class. It's great. |
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VanIslander
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Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Last week I ended a class early and the students looked at me dumbfounded, one student saying, "But teacher... two more minutes!"
You see, I have a long track record of going overtime by two or three or five minutes, sometimes unfortunately more,... to where students often received flack from their next hagwon teacher in math or science or whatever, so they'd do a number of things to remind me: "Teacher, look at the clock!" or "Class time finished." or "Time over." They used to try the ol' just start putting away their books or putting on their coats or getting out their attendance sticker books but I said that was rude and quickly nipped that in the bud. But if they put their concerns into words, then, well, I'm a sucker for that.
I also usually reserve the last 10 minutes of class to review lesson games, so often the students don't want the class to finish either.
I take nearly zero time inbetween classes for myself (if I'm thirsty I tell my students that in class and excuse myself for a cup of water; if hungry i sometimes pull out an orange and eat it, often a bag of them to share); i do preclass chitchat with the incoming students, like asking how they are (no 'fine's allowed, must be sincere on the awful-not good-not so good-soso-not bad-alright-good-pretty good-very good-great-wonderful-perfect scale or equivalents they volunteer (happy, beautiful, etc), what did they do on the weekend, how is their sister/brother/family, whats new, where did they get their new bag/haircut, etc, which often gets a conversation going, i finding them more open when done naturally like that before class begins, part of what my ongoing teaching with them is all about 9but i have them twice to thrice a week for one, two, many for three years, and know them each so well...
If I taught in a PS or uni I might be much less inclined to take the time to connect with them inbetween classes. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:59 am Post subject: |
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And starting classes one, two or three minutes late is also beneficial. You can turn a 50-minute class into a 43-minute class.  |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| And starting classes one, two or three minutes late is also beneficial. You can turn a 50-minute class into a 43-minute class. |
some classes you want to be shorter, others you can't get enough of |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
Last week I ended a class early and the students looked at me dumbfounded, one student saying, "But teacher... two more minutes!"
You see, I have a long track record of going overtime by two or three or five minutes, sometimes unfortunately more,... to where students often received flack from their next hagwon teacher in math or science or whatever, so they'd do a number of things to remind me: "Teacher, look at the clock!" or "Class time finished." or "Time over." They used to try the ol' just start putting away their books or putting on their coats or getting out their attendance sticker books but I said that was rude and quickly nipped that in the bud. But if they put their concerns into words, then, well, I'm a sucker for that.
I also usually reserve the last 10 minutes of class to review lesson games, so often the students don't want the class to finish either.
I take nearly zero time inbetween classes for myself (if I'm thirsty I tell my students that in class and excuse myself for a cup of water; if hungry i sometimes pull out an orange and eat it, often a bag of them to share); i do preclass chitchat with the incoming students, like asking how they are (no 'fine's allowed, must be sincere on the awful-not good-not so good-soso-not bad-alright-good-pretty good-very good-great-wonderful-perfect scale or equivalents they volunteer (happy, beautiful, etc), what did they do on the weekend, how is their sister/brother/family, whats new, where did they get their new bag/haircut, etc, which often gets a conversation going, i finding them more open when done naturally like that before class begins, part of what my ongoing teaching with them is all about 9but i have them twice to thrice a week for one, two, many for three years, and know them each so well...
If I taught in a PS or uni I might be much less inclined to take the time to connect with them inbetween classes. |
Well that was a really long and detailed post about what a great teacher you are.
I talk to my students before and after class AND I work at a PS. Where's my prize? |
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NoExplode
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| And starting classes one, two or three minutes late is also beneficial. You can turn a 50-minute class into a 43-minute class. |
Stretching attendance out for 4 minutes is also doable. Pause and make small-talk with each student, and generally move about slowly. Take another 2-3 minutes getting the proper book, and checking students for materials. 43-7=36 minute class. |
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esetters21
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
If I taught in a PS or uni I might be much less inclined to take the time to connect with them inbetween classes. |
Well that was a really long and detailed post about what a great teacher you are.
I talk to my students before and after class AND I work at a PS. Where's my prize? |
You don't get a prize for working in a ps InP. You should have known better. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| NoExplode wrote: |
| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| And starting classes one, two or three minutes late is also beneficial. You can turn a 50-minute class into a 43-minute class. |
Stretching attendance out for 4 minutes is also doable. Pause and make small-talk with each student, and generally move about slowly. Take another 2-3 minutes getting the proper book, and checking students for materials. 43-7=36 minute class. |
Of course. 
Also "forgetting" to get the attendance book from the teachers' room, having to go back for it, etc. There are so many possibilities. |
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Xuanzang
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Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| Photocopying because students forgot their books. We all know the students need their books to learn. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:00 am Post subject: |
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Most korean teachers do a death march to class that burns at least 10 minutes.
My time burner is starting the computer as we have a slow computer. |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:06 am Post subject: |
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| esetters21 wrote: |
| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
If I taught in a PS or uni I might be much less inclined to take the time to connect with them inbetween classes. |
Well that was a really long and detailed post about what a great teacher you are.
I talk to my students before and after class AND I work at a PS. Where's my prize? |
You don't get a prize for working in a ps InP. You should have known better. |
Wrong.
I believe I get to go on a skiing trip with my coworkers in about a month. And I might even get to ride on the noraebang bus again on the way. |
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esetters21
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| esetters21 wrote: |
| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
If I taught in a PS or uni I might be much less inclined to take the time to connect with them inbetween classes. |
Well that was a really long and detailed post about what a great teacher you are.
I talk to my students before and after class AND I work at a PS. Where's my prize? |
You don't get a prize for working in a ps InP. You should have known better. |
Wrong.
I believe I get to go on a skiing trip with my coworkers in about a month. And I might even get to ride on the noraebang bus again on the way. |
 Nice, but don't tell everyone, because they might think it is a ps gimmick.
BTW...how dare you take time to talk to your students outside of class time in your ps? |
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I'm no Picasso
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Nice, but don't tell everyone, because they might think it is a ps gimmick.
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Gimmick? It's a reward for being a fantastically influential 45-minutes-every-other-week NATIVE ENGLISH TEACHER.
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| BTW...how dare you take time to talk to your students outside of class time in your ps? |
Well, it's better than talking to my co-teachers. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| esetters21 wrote: |
| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
If I taught in a PS or uni I might be much less inclined to take the time to connect with them inbetween classes. |
Well that was a really long and detailed post about what a great teacher you are.
I talk to my students before and after class AND I work at a PS. Where's my prize? |
You don't get a prize for working in a ps InP. You should have known better. |
Wrong.
I believe I get to go on a skiing trip with my coworkers in about a month. And I might even get to ride on the noraebang bus again on the way. |
yay |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| esetters21 wrote: |
| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| VanIslander wrote: |
If I taught in a PS or uni I might be much less inclined to take the time to connect with them inbetween classes. |
Well that was a really long and detailed post about what a great teacher you are.
I talk to my students before and after class AND I work at a PS. Where's my prize? |
You don't get a prize for working in a ps InP. You should have known better. |
Wrong.
I believe I get to go on a skiing trip with my coworkers in about a month. And I might even get to ride on the noraebang bus again on the way. |
yay |
Youknowsit.
Hey, the noraebang bus isn't so bad, if there's enough rice wine to go around.... |
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