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retail sales fall off a steep cliff

 
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:30 am    Post subject: retail sales fall off a steep cliff Reply with quote

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHEg/SW3rqrMjnuI/AAAAAAAAEMA/WwWwwE6KYSM/s1600-h/RetailDec2008.jpg

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/01/retail-sales-collapse-in-december.html

The chart above is amazing...

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/mutual-funds-down-down-down/
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Average decline in diversified mutual funds in 2008 was 40% and the outlook for 2009 is unclear.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/4229198/Shipping-rates-hit-zero-as-trade-sinks.html
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Shipping rates hit zero as trade sinks
"They have already hit zero," said Charles de Trenck, a broker at Transport Trackers in Hong Kong. "We have seen trade activity fall off a cliff. Asia-Europe is an unmit�igated disaster."

Shipping journal Lloyd's List said brokers in Singapore are now waiving fees for containers travelling from South China, charging only for the minimal "bunker" costs. Container fees from North Asia have dropped $200, taking them below operating cost.

Industry sources said they have never seen rates fall so low. "This is a whole new ball game," said one trader.


What's the point of me posting this?:

http://www.dailyreckoning.com/rss/DR011309sec1.html
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The End of Trade's Golden Age


Globalisation has the the dominant theme of the past 20 years or so. Time to update the text books.
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it's full of stars



Joined: 26 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trade got bigger, so the recession got bigger.

What do you think, because of a recession we all go back to cottage industries or start to starve?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's more on the same topic:

Economy starts `09 on weaker footing; outlook dim

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. economy started the new year on weaker footing as recession-shocked Americans retrenched further, forcing retailers to ring up fewer sales and factories to cut back production.
The Federal Reserve's new snapshot of business conditions nationwide, released Wednesday, suggested the country's economic picture has darkened over the last two months. The outlook appears equally dim.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95N3KF83&show_article=1
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Bigfeet



Joined: 29 May 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, this looks to be a Titanic in the making. I see disaster slowly approaching, and we can do nothing about it.

You know the US' need for cheap gas to fuel their cars these last few decades enabled globalization because you need cheap transport costs.

Another thing is there's now a surplus of transport ships. And SK has the top three shipbuilding companies in the world (or something like that), so you know what that means. Companies will start canceling their order for ships in the future guaranteeing further bailouts needed for SK's shipbuilding industry.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's full of stars wrote:
Trade got bigger, so the recession got bigger.

What do you think, because of a recession we all go back to cottage industries or start to starve?


Clown.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgive him/her, for he/she knows not what he/she says.
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it's full of stars



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True. I'll get my pointy hat and bugger off back to my village, while you geniuses guide the world to a soft landing. Call me when you've fixed everything.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant!

Quote:
What's the point of me posting this?:

http://www.dailyreckoning.com/rss/DR011309sec1.html



Thanks for posting this.


This is a brilliant analysis of the current situation. Everyone should read it.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's full of stars wrote:
True. I'll get my pointy hat and bugger off back to my village


Since my post had nothing to do with "cottage industries" or "starving", you might be wise to do so.
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mises



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7834250.stm
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US retailer Circuit City to close

US electronics retailer Circuit City is to close after failing to reach a deal with its creditors and lenders, with the loss of 30,000 jobs.

Liquidators will now sell off the firm's assets. The announcement comes two months after the firm was forced to seek bankruptcy protection.

Some 567 Circuit City stores will now shut for the last time. About 155 stores had already closed in December.

Circuit City vice chairman James Marcum said the decision was "regrettable".

'Extremely disappointed'

The firm had seen sales slump as it lost ground to larger rival Best Buy and was hit by the general slowdown in US consumer spending.

"We are extremely disappointed by this outcome," said James Marcum, vice chairman and acting president and chief executive.

"The company had been in continuous negotiations regarding a going concern transaction.

"Regrettably for the more than 30,000 employees of Circuit City and our loyal customers, we were unable to reach an agreement."
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RJjr



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30,000 Circuit City employees losing their jobs. That's another straw on the back of this sick camel:

http://www.wfpl.org/CMS/?p=3264
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kotakji



Joined: 23 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expected to see Circuit City go under oh, 20 years ago. Seriously one of the worst run chains. Their stores are dungeon-like in atmosphere. The three times Ive gone there for specific products advertised on sale as 'first day arrivals' the item hadn't arrived or was not stocked (and the staff didn't seem interested in getting a copy from the backrooms when they simply weren't stocked). Radio Shack and K-mart are two other chains that seem to survive in spite of themselves.
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Jandar



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bestbuy.com/

http://www.radioshack.com/home/index.jsp

http://www.circuitcity.com/closed.html


(Tiger.com companies)
http://www.compusa.com/

http://www.tigerdirect.com/

http://www.globalcomputer.com/
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RJjr



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kotakji wrote:
Radio Shack and K-mart are two other chains that seem to survive in spite of themselves.


You're so right. Radio Shack is so 70s yet they survive! But don't even get me started on K-Mart. In the late 90s, I was managing two fleets of drivers for a large trucking company in Atlanta. One fleet was dedicated specifically to Wal*Mart and the other was a K-Mart dedicated fleet. The Wal*Mart freight was all drop and hook to and from the rail and the drivers would move the freight as efficiently as they could legally log it. With the K-Mart fleet, it was live unload with anywhere from three to six or seven K-Mart stores in Kentucky on each trailer. The drivers would almost always get held up at their first K-Mart store which put them behind for all of the other K-Mart store delivery times. I would generally call the store to find out what time they would be getting out of there and could rarely get a straight answer. If they said an hour, it would usually end up being three hours or more. The other K-Marts would have to "work in" our trucks around their other unloads even though they were having to pay us detention time. K-Mart wasted so much money on detention pay that their logistics management should've been completely replaced on that alone. I never managed a Target fleet, but I had drivers who hauled many of their loads and can say that Target's logistics and transportation departments are well-organized.
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