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traxxe
Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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 Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: How to always be innocent Korea.... |
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So I have been thinking. We foreigners are constantly told that we "don't understand Korean culture." That when things in this backwards culture come up that make us go 'hmmmm' we are at fault for our ignorance of Korean ways. After all, Korea is the final stop in evolution as is evidenced by their lack of body hair (as confidently relayed to me as two P.h.D holding professors at my uni) and are at the peak of humanity.
So how do we fit in and mine this golden culture in order to discover how to reward ourselves with its richness? I have the solution.
The steps to always being free and innocent in this culture:
Step 1: Whenever confronted with a situation of adversity you should immediately do something terribly innappropriate and rape the victim.
Step 2: Whenever the above rape is confronted by the judicial system you should immediately express total remorse and blame the victim for not understanding Korean culture.
Example: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/01/113_37965.html
Korean man's Filipina wife isn't putting out.
Korean man does something incredibly inappropriate and rapes her. He holds a knife to her while he rapes her.
Korean man then blames her for not understanding Korean culture and expresses remorse.
Korean man is not given jail time and Filipina wife is held responsible.
"The court said it suspended his sentence for three years as he expressed remorse for his misconduct. It also noted the victim was held responsible for failing to make efforts to communicate with her husband and to adjust to Korean culture."
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This post is expressing sarcasm. Please do not rape anyone even if Korean justice clearly says its okay as evidenced by the above case, the disabled girl being raped by her family case, and a plethore of other injustices in this society. In no way do I condone the disgusting acts this culture carries out like the jailing of innocent people simply because their ship was rammed by Koreans working for Samsung to no fault of their own.
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Wait... so now KOREANS are having sex with FOREIGNERS at knifepoint?
It's not funny, anyway. A thirty month sentence for rape is a f*cking joke to begin with. But, sadly, if you look at the history of spousal rape convictions, Korea isn't so far behind anyone else. At least they're actually calling it rape, which may seem like little consolation in this situation, but it's actually a big step. Again, unfortunately. |
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traxxe
Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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No it is not a big step. He held her at knifepoint. In non-primitive societies he would be convicted of rape, assault with a deadly weapon, and kidnapping for holding her against her will. He would be sentenced to 20-30 years at least.
The guy put a knife to her and forced her to have sex. That's not just spousal rape. People don't get convicted of that and get suspended sentences when they ARE guilty unless you live in an ass backwards culture like this.
There is no positive outcome here. NONE. The court even blames the WIFE for not understanding KOREAN CULTURE that justifies RAPE. |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| traxxe wrote: |
No it is not a big step. He held her at knifepoint. In non-primitive societies he would be convicted of rape, assault with a deadly weapon, and kidnapping for holding her against her will. He would be sentenced to 20-30 years at least.
The guy put a knife to her and forced her to have sex. That's not just spousal rape. People don't get convicted of that and get suspended sentences when they ARE guilty unless you live in an ass backwards culture like this.
There is no positive outcome here. NONE. The court even blames the WIFE for not understanding KOREAN CULTURE that justifies RAPE. |
Absolutely horrendous and unforgivable--that the court would even suggest that this was due to a cultural misunderstanding shows a very deep-rooted and pervasive xenophobia in Korea that assures foreigners can expected to be treated as second-class citizens. |
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santafly
Joined: 20 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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The whole "you don't understand Korean culture" thing is ridiculous. Most Koreans (like most people from anywhere else) have never spent a significant amount of time outisde Korea and therefore have no comparative perspective on their culture. What it means when they say it is: My life experience is so limited that I have now way of understanding what your talking about and rather than trying to think I will remain comfortable in my culturally reinforced ignorance. Yeah, there is nothing particularly Korean about this line of thought - it's just that their cultutre is so different form the rest of the world the thinking errors, illogical tendencies, and cultural exclusionism stand out more.
I wonder what Korea would be like without Confucious..... |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| In the USA we would call this a "hate crime." In Korea, it's due to "love and affection." |
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Guri Guy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:18 am Post subject: |
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It's extremely hard not to be cynical about South Korea when you see these ridiculous court rulings. It's like they are 200 years behind civilized societies legally.  |
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mayorgc
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| shit, my rose tinted shades have now been shattered =( |
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:28 am Post subject: |
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I agree with previous posters. This sh*t is a complete disgrace.
I wish that international news outlets took more notice of these kinds of cases, like they do when say a Saudi or Sudanese court makes ridiculous rulings. Having their dirty laundry out there for international consumption is probably the only way that Koreans will give a rat's ass. |
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crusher_of_heads
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Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
| In the USA we would call this a "hate crime." In Korea, it's due to "love and affection." |
Are you implying that those who use "you don't understanduh korean culture" are ignorant, stupid, knuckle dragging jackasses? |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:56 am Post subject: |
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No it is not a big step. He held her at knifepoint. In non-primitive societies he would be convicted of rape, assault with a deadly weapon, and kidnapping for holding her against her will. He would be sentenced to 20-30 years at least.
The guy put a knife to her and forced her to have sex. That's not just spousal rape. People don't get convicted of that and get suspended sentences when they ARE guilty unless you live in an ass backwards culture like this.
There is no positive outcome here. NONE. The court even blames the WIFE for not understanding KOREAN CULTURE that justifies RAPE. |
Well, I see this as yet another case of people perceiving Western culture to be more advanced than it actually is. In my opinion and knowledge of spousal rape in the West, this wouldn't be a totally unlikely ruling. Except for the part about them actually convicting the guy of rape.
The part about the knife does obviously make it rape, but even if he didn't have a knife, it still could have been rape. But the problem you would run up against would not be whether or not the knife makes it rape, but whether or not you could believe the wife when she said her husband raped her at knifepoint -- she's probably lying, exaggerating, etc. etc. -- why would a husband need to rape his wife?
Anyway, sorry to interrupt the ongoing acclamations of the West's superior lack of sexism/racism/so on and so forth.... |
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traxxe
Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| Well, I see this as yet another case of people perceiving Western culture to be more advanced than it actually is. In my opinion and knowledge of spousal rape in the West, this wouldn't be a totally unlikely ruling. |
You're not very intelligent then or your knowledge of judicial proceedings in the West is akin to South Korean knowledge about the dangers of American beef.
The guy admitted to raping his wife at knife point and threatening her life with a gas gun. Should he plead guilty to this and other charges in the West, he sure as hell is not getting a suspended sentence. Further the judge would NEVER blame the spouse for being at fault for not understanding the culture and being responsible for the rape. If you think otherwise you are about as brilliant as Michael Jackson in a children's underwear modeling contest.
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Except for the part about them actually convicting the guy of rape.
The part about the knife does obviously make it rape, but even if he didn't have a knife, it still could have been rape. But the problem you would run up against would not be whether or not the knife makes it rape, but whether or not you could believe the wife when she said her husband raped her at knifepoint -- she's probably lying, exaggerating, etc. etc. -- why would a husband need to rape his wife? |
Apples and oranges. He plead guilty and stated remorse for his actions. In South Korea a man can be convicted and guilty of rape and get away with it because this justice system is retarded.
In a scenario within a modern non-retarded justice system, if a man did what this Korean did he would serve a lot of time. If he did not and some absurd ruling like this emerged then women's groups and other organizations would have a huge outcry and it would get incredible national attention. The judge would be removed and probably stripped of his/her robes. In Korea it does not get a whisper because this society is racist against foreigners.
Are you missing the part where the judge says the woman is at fault? Are you really that blind? The judge holds the woman responsible for not understanding Korean culture and thus bringing the knifepoint rape upon herself.
Find an example of something similar in the west. I freaking dare you. You can't. Our culture would rise up and throw a huge shit fit about such an injustice.
Imagine a guy im a Western culture putting a gun to his wife's head and raping her. Then thiss asstard is arrested and admitted hehis guilt but he is freaking sorry. Then a judge in the West ruling he will not serve jail time because he is sorry and that it is the wife's fault because she didn't understand his needs and so she deserved the gun and the rape.
Sorry dude... massage your brain with kimchi and maybe you'll produce some recovery in your thought process. I hear that stuff cures HIV and fan death. It has to do wonders for your short circuiting brain.
The issue is not the superiority of the West. If you would untangle your mouth from Korea's penninsular sphincter you would see that this country has GROSS injustices and racism that is ingrained in its culture and justice system. To let a man GUILTY of raping his wife at knifepoint go free is a tragedy of justice. No Western and forward-thinking society would condone such behavior.
This is not an isolated incident. Look at the instance where the family raped the disabled child repeatedly and retained custody with no jail time. Korea is sick and needs to be cured. It's justice system is morally and ethically bankrupt and they use 'you don't understand Korean culture' as an excuse to justify the pathetic aspects of their culture.
Clearly, those who question the actions of Korea are the ones who understand Korean culture. They understand it for the ethically weak, racist, and ass sparkling qualities it posesses.
This country is a top TEN world economy. It is a democracy. There is no excuse for this bullshit. The expectations placed on Korea should be that of a top ten economic power and leading democracy and crap like this needs to be flushed out its culture.
Is everything about Korea wrong and terrible? No. It needs a lot of work though and it is an incredibly unjust and racially perverse country.
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Guri Guy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Owned! Awesome post. Post of the year I think. 
BTW I think South Korea has slipped to the 13th biggest economy in the world. (or was the last time I checked)
Korea - Ass sparkling! lol |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| traxxe wrote: |
No it is not a big step. He held her at knifepoint. In non-primitive societies he would be convicted of rape, assault with a deadly weapon, and kidnapping for holding her against her will. He would be sentenced to 20-30 years at least.
The guy put a knife to her and forced her to have sex. That's not just spousal rape. People don't get convicted of that and get suspended sentences when they ARE guilty unless you live in an ass backwards culture like this.
There is no positive outcome here. NONE. The court even blames the WIFE for not understanding KOREAN CULTURE that justifies RAPE. |
Well, I see this as yet another case of people perceiving Western culture to be more advanced than it actually is. In my opinion and knowledge of spousal rape in the West, this wouldn't be a totally unlikely ruling. Except for the part about them actually convicting the guy of rape.
The part about the knife does obviously make it rape, but even if he didn't have a knife, it still could have been rape. But the problem you would run up against would not be whether or not the knife makes it rape, but whether or not you could believe the wife when she said her husband raped her at knifepoint -- she's probably lying, exaggerating, etc. etc. -- why would a husband need to rape his wife?
Anyway, sorry to interrupt the ongoing acclamations of the West's superior lack of sexism/racism/so on and so forth.... |
A man can rape his wife for any number of reasons. So you're saying just because she's his wife, and forces her to have sex, it's still not rape? She should still do her "wifely duties" of putting out? You sound just like the court! Ridiculous and stupid |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| crusher_of_heads wrote: |
| Bibbitybop wrote: |
| In the USA we would call this a "hate crime." In Korea, it's due to "love and affection." |
Are you implying that those who use "you don't understanduh korean culture" are ignorant, stupid, knuckle dragging jackasses? |
No, I'm implying that Korean judges are ignorant, stupid, knuckle dragging jackasses. |
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