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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Location: On your computer screen.
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: The American Taliban |
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The American Taliban- this page has enlightened, down-home wisdom from some of America's former and current conservative leading lights. Here are some of the highlights:
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Ann Coulter:
"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."
"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
Bob Dornan(former Rep. R-CA):
"Don't use the word 'gay' unless it's an acronym for 'Got Aids Yet'"
George Bush Sr. (former President of the United States)
"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
George W. Bush (President of the United States)
"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."
James Watt (Secretary of the Interior)
"We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."*
*Secretary of the Interior in the Reagan Admin. Responsible for National Policy regarding the Environment
Jerry Falwell (1933 - 2007)
"We're fighting against humanism, we're fighting against liberalism...we are fighting against all the systems of Satan that are destroying our nation today...our battle is with Satan himself."
"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharoah's chariotters."
"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc."
Jesse Helms (former Sen. R-NC)
"The New York Times and Washington Post are both infested with homosexuals themselves. Just about every person down there is a homosexual or lesbian."
"All Latins are volatile people. Hence, I was not surprised at the volatile reaction."
Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin
�George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United States, he was appointed by God.�
Pat Buchanan (Presidential Candidate)
"Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free."
"There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The "negroes" of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours."
"Rail as they will about 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism."
Pat Robertson (Christian Coalition)
"The Islamic people, the Arabs, were the ones who captured Africans, put them in slavery, and sent them to America as slaves. Why would the people in America want to embrace the religion of slavers?"
"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different...More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."
"When lawlessness is abroad in the land, the same thing will happen here that happened in Nazi Germany. Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals � the two things seem to go together."
"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."
"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense, I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist."
"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."
"[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."
"[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism � everything that the Bible condemns."
Rick Santorum (former Sen. R-PA)
"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [Gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything!"
Ronald Reagan (1911 - 2004)(former President of the United States)
"For the first time ever, everything is in place for the Battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ."
Rush Limbaugh
"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society."
"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"
William Rehnquist (1924 - 2005)(Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court)
"The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging. It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned." |
http://adultthought.ucsd.edu/Culture_War/The_American_Taliban.html
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Jandar

Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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There are wing nuts everywhere. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Are you calling Ronald Reagan a wingnut? |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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"Wingnut." You people and your proclivity to assign mental illness to those with whom you disagree.
R. Reagan represented the far right, the New Right to be precise. Sun-belt suburbanites, social conservatives, and hawkish, B. Goldwater-style Cold Warriors. No more no less. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: The American Taliban |
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This is the worst they could find on Coulter?
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"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims." |
A slight exaggeration. But really, true. Maybe it's a "hatefact"?
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"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war." |
So she's historically informed. This was how the world worked for a long while. When I first read it I figured it was an extremist position. Now, I'm coming around. A while back Kuros posted a thread that there was an "x" chance (50%?) of "terrorists" (see point '1') nuking an American city. If muslims "radicals" (obedients) do that, I'll fly the planes over their cities my fucking self.
These is a ton of objectionable Coulter stuff. But the above ain't it. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
A slight exaggeration. But really, true. Maybe it's a "hatefact"?
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I heard of lot of bad things said about William Ayers, but not that he was a Muslim. And I'll bet Timothy McVeigh is rolling over in his grave. Not to mention the IRA and that bunch of Basques in Spain. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
A slight exaggeration. But really, true. Maybe it's a "hatefact"?
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I heard of lot of bad things said about William Ayers, but not that he was a Muslim. And I'll bet Timothy McVeigh is rolling over in his grave. Not to mention the IRA and that bunch of Basques in Spain. |
Hence "slight".
Here's what we have for Jan thus far:
2009.01.17 Pakistan Miranshah 1 0 An Afghan civilian is murdered by the Taliban.
2009.01.17 Afghanistan Nangarhar 1 2 A civilian is taken down by a Fedayeen suicide bomber in a minivan.
2009.01.17 Afghanistan Kabul 4 23 A woman and child are among four civilians killed outside the German embassy when a Holy Warrior detonates beside them.
2009.01.17 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two innocent guards at a cell phone tower are gunned down by Sunni extremists.
2009.01.17 Pakistan Matani 1 0 A faith healer is abducted and beheaded by Islamists.
2009.01.17 Algeria Miliana 1 0 A man has his throat slit by Islamic fundamentalists at a fake roadblock.
2009.01.17 Iraq Baghdad 1 1 Jihad bombers kill the driver of a municipal vehicle.
2009.01.16 Iraq Mosul 1 0 The local Christian owner of a car repair shop is brutally murdered by Islamic terrorists.
2009.01.16 Iraq Mosul 1 2 Mujahideen storm a home and murder a woman inside.
2009.01.15 Pakistan Miranshah 1 0 A 30-year-old civilian is abducted and murdered by Islamic radicals.
2009.01.15 Somalia Kismayo 1 0 Islamists assassinate a former statesman after 'sentencing' him to death.
2009.01.14 Iraq Mosul 2 4 A Holy Warrior takes out two Iraqis with a suicide belt.
2009.01.14 Somalia Mogadishu 6 18 A half-dozen civilians are killed due to an Islamist mortar attack on the presidential palace.
2009.01.14 Pakistan Quetta 4 0 Four Shia are ambushed and killed by Sunni militants with automatic weapons.
2009.01.13 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two civilians are shot to death by Mujahideen.
2009.01.13 Pakistan Miranshah 1 0 A civilian is abducted and brutally beheaded by religious radicals.
2009.01.13 Pakistan Matta 3 4 A beheaded rickshaw driver is among three people killed in separate terror attacks.
2009.01.13 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two village chiefs are shot to death in Muslim drive-by attacks.
2009.01.13 Thailand Narathiwat 1 4 A local soldier succumbs to shrapnal injuries following a Religion of Peace bombing attack.
2009.01.12 Iraq Baghdad 8 31 Eight Iraqis are burned or blasted to death in three Jihad bombings.
2009.01.12 Somalia Mogadishu 13 30 At least thirteen people are killed in a brutal mortar attack by Islamic militia.
2009.01.12 Pakistan Hangu 5 21 Five more people are killed in sectarian violence between Sunni and Shia.
2009.01.12 Ingushetia Nazran 1 1 Islamic snipers pick off a local soldier.
2009.01.12 Pakistan North Waziristan 2 0 Two brothers are abducted and brutally murdered by Mujahideen.
2009.01.11 Thailand Yala 3 2 Two Buddhists are among three farmers shot to death by Islamic terrorists.
2009.01.11 Iraq Mosul 5 4 Five Iraqis are murdered by Islamic militants in two attacks.
2009.01.11 Pakistan Swat 4 0 A father and son are among four civilians shot to death by Taliban militants in three attacks.
2009.01.11 Pakistan Bajaur 0 4 Religious extremists abduct and then chop the ears off of four private security guards.
2009.01.11 Algeria Merine 2 2 A mother and child are gunned down by armed Islamists at a fake roadblock.
2009.01.11 Somalia Guriel 30 50 al-Shabaab hardline fundamentalists attack a rival group, leaving about thirty people dead.
2009.01.11 Pakistan Mohmand 6 7 Taliban militants overrun a military base, killing at least six local soldiers.
2009.01.10 Pakistan Sibi 2 0 Two Shias are assassinated by Sunni terrorists.
2009.01.10 Pakistan Hangu 47 60 A Muslim group attacks a rival funeral, setting off Sunni-Shia violence that leaves nearly fifty dead over the next four days.
2009.01.10 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 54-year-old civilian is gunned down by Mujahideen.
2009.01.09 Israel Rehovot 0 1 A Muslim yells 'Allah Akbar' and strikes a Jewish teen with an axe.
2009.01.09 Afghanistan Nimroz 10 3 A Shahid blows himself up in a fruit shop, taking out ten patrons and employees.
2009.01.09 Somalia Gedo 1 5 Islamic militants assassinate a local mayor with a rocket.
2009.01.09 Iraq Baghdad 9 15 A child is among nine Iraqis taken out be Jihadi bomber in three attacks.
2009.01.09 Pakistan Swat 2 0 Two locals are abducted and butchered by Islamic militants.
2009.01.09 Pakistan Lahore 0 5 Fundamentalists bomb movie theaters accused of showing 'anti-Islamic' films.
2009.01.08 Iraq Jalawla 6 7 Six Iraqis are blown up in a Jihad bomb attack.
2009.01.08 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 21 A Holy Warrior takes out three civilians with an explosives belt.
2009.01.07 Pakistan Swat 2 0 Two civilians are shot to death by terrorists in separate incidents.
2009.01.07 Somalia Yubsan 1 0 A humanitarian worker and father of five is shot to death in cold blood by Islamic terrorists.
2009.01.07 Somalia Yaqshid 4 2 Four local soldiers are killed when Islamists stop their vehilce with a roadside bomb, then toss a grenade at the survivors.
2009.01.07 Pakistan North Waziristan 2 0 Two Afghan civilians are kidnapped and brutally executed by religious radicals.
2009.01.07 Pakistan Hungu 4 1 Four policemen die from burns and shrapnel during a Taliban rocket attack.
2009.01.07 Pal. Auth. Gaza 6 0 Three brothers are among six people shot to death by Hamas militants.
2009.01.06 Pakistan Mingora 6 0 Six local cops are kidnapped and brutally executed by Sunni radicals.
2009.01.06 Iraq Mosul 2 6 A Shahid successfully kills two civilians with a suicide bomb.
2009.01.06 Iraq Baghdad 4 6 Four Iraqis are taken out by roadside bombers.
2009.01.06 Thailand Pattani 1 0 An Islamic terror attack leaves a 47-year-old security man dead.
2009.01.05 Pakistan Swat 2 0 Two persons are murdered by Mujahideen in separate attacks, including a woman in her home.
2009.01.05 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 1 Religious extremists attack a police post, killing three local officers.
2009.01.05 Pakistan Quetta 2 0 Two Shia civilians are shot to death by Sunni militants.
2009.01.05 Pakistan Bannu 3 0 Three family men are abducted and executed by the Taliban.
2009.01.05 Iraq Baghdad 3 6 Jihadis plant a bomb outside a soccer stadium, killing three Iraqis.
2009.01.05 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 0 A pro-government mosque leader is taken out by Islamic gunmen
2009.01.05 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 Religious radicals gun down a 51-year-old cop.
2009.01.05 Thailand Yala 1 2 A villager is shot to death by Mujahid while standing with his neighbors.
2009.01.05 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 Islamists shoot at a married couple with automatic weapons, killing the husband and injuring his wife.
2009.01.04 Thailand Pattani 1 1 Muslim gunmen murder a Buddhist man and injure his wife as they are riding in their vehicle.
2009.01.04 Pakistan Di Khan 10 25 Islamic bombers blast at least ten people to death in an attack at a college campus.
2009.01.04 Iraq Baghdad 36 72 Dozens of women and children are blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber targeting a crowd of Shiite pilgrims near a shrine.
2009.01.04 Pal. Auth. Gaza 35 75 The Islamic terror group, Hamas, 'executes' thirty-five rivals and maims over seventy others over the course of several days.
2009.01.04 Pakistan Swat 2 0 Muslim fundamentalists abduct and brutally execute two police officers, beheading one and hanging his head from a pole.
2009.01.04 Pakistan Matta 3 0 Three persons are murdered by suspected Taliban gunmen.
2009.01.03 Iraq Baghdad 4 16 Shia pilgrims are among the victims of two Sunni bombing attacks.
2009.01.02 Pakistan Swat 3 0 Three civilians are shot to death in two attacks.
2009.01.02 Pakistan Balogram 2 0 Two policemen are abducted by Islamists and gruesomely tortured to death.
2009.01.02 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 Muslim terrorists shoot a tribal elder to death.
2009.01.02 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A local cleric is shot to death by al-Shabaab radicals in his home in front of his blind mother.
2009.01.02 Iraq al-Yusufiyah 23 110 A Fedayeen suicide bomber wades into a lunch crowd at a reconciliation meeting between Sunni and Shia leaders, killing twenty-three.
2009.01.02 Pakistan Mingora 1 0 A local dancing girl is quickly gunned down by Islamists after her husband kicks her out of the house.
2009.01.02 Somalia Mogadishu 9 0 Two soldiers and seven civilians are killed in an Mujahid bombing and the ensuing fire fight.
2009.01.01 Iraq Mosul 3 5 A Shahid takes out three Iraqis.
2009.01.01 Somalia Afgoye 1 0 A journalist is killed during an attack by Islamic militia.
2009.01.01 Pakistan Swat 3 0 Three people are shot to death by Islamic terrorists in separate attacks.
2009.01.01 Pakistan Bajaur 4 16 Four civilians are killed when Mujahideen fire rockets into an office complex.
2009.01.01 Pakistan Peshawar 3 6 Three policemen are killed by two Religion of Peace bombs.
2009.01.01 Pakistan Swat 1 0 Militants drag a man out of his home and cut off his head in a public square.
2009.01.01 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 Two local officials are assassinated by Mujahideen.
2009.01.01 Pakistan Ghania 2 0 A young man chops his mother and daughter into pieces after they ignore his warning to end an illicit affair with a local man.
2009.01.01 Somalia Baidoa 1 0 A member of a reconciliation committee is murdered by Islamic militia. |
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Jandar

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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
A slight exaggeration. But really, true. Maybe it's a "hatefact"?
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I heard of lot of bad things said about William Ayers, but not that he was a Muslim. And I'll bet Timothy McVeigh is rolling over in his grave. Not to mention the IRA and that bunch of Basques in Spain. |
You forgot the Tamil Tigers. |
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Jandar

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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Are you calling Ronald Reagan a wingnut? |
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was taken out of context. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Location: On your computer screen.
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:00 am Post subject: |
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mises wrote: |
Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
A slight exaggeration. But really, true. Maybe it's a "hatefact"?
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I heard of lot of bad things said about William Ayers, but not that he was a Muslim. And I'll bet Timothy McVeigh is rolling over in his grave. Not to mention the IRA and that bunch of Basques in Spain. |
Hence "slight".
Here's what we have for Jan thus far:
2009.01.17 Pakistan Miranshah 1 0 An Afghan civilian is murdered by the Taliban.
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2009.01.01 Somalia Baidoa 1 0 A member of a reconciliation committee is murdered by Islamic militia. |
The Muslim religion certainly has a lot to answer for but it's still a dumb thing to say. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Rush Limbaugh
"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society." |
Seems to be at least one true statement on your list. |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Not to mention the IRA and that bunch of Basques in Spain. |
Yea the Omagh bomb was only like 10 years ago.(RIRA i know).
Hopefully the boys in south armagh aren't reading this and seething. They might decide to go back to their lorry bomb making ways and ditch the whole gangster thing.
I suppose anything that happened before 2001 is not really terrorism or relevant.. |
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samcheokguy

Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Location: Samcheok G-do
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Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Give the moderate muslims guns and let them clean up their own country...oh wait...then it wouldn't be a democracy would it?
-You can't have your cake and eat it to! |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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samcheokguy wrote: |
Give the moderate muslims guns and let them clean up their own country...oh wait...then it wouldn't be a democracy would it?
-You can't have your cake and eat it to! |
They might be more successful if we gave them tanks and not just guns.
The American Taliban will be more active now that Obama is in office. Their leeches are already inside the Pentagon (See USAF evangelicalism) and the career appointees position. The economic crunch and election losses have severely weakened their political power, so expect more use of their 'soft' power.
Also, their membership has been stockpiling weapons lately. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/16/firearms-associations-claim-obama-drove-surge-gun-sales/
Recently, someone sent the infamous White Powder Envelope to the Wall St. Journal, probably forgetting that the WSJ is now owned by one of their patron saints Rupert Murdoch.
We may see a swing back to the 90s of rental truck bombs, abortion clinic bombs. We're already into the church burnings (Springfield MA). |
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RJjr

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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:42 am Post subject: Re: The American Taliban |
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mises wrote: |
"radicals" (obedients) do that, I'll fly the planes over their cities my fucking self. |
Maybe that's how Ziad Jarrah felt about our own religious radicals when bombs fell in his country. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Converting Muslims to Christianity, or vice versa, is like swapping a donkey for a mule. Maybe all Muslims and Christians should convert to the Raelians, or the Adjumma Church, or some other nonviolent religion. |
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