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Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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 Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject: Public school overnight obligations |
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hi all,
if any of the forum experts could please advise,
im aware public schools have overnight summer/winter student camps
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are there any other overnight camp requirements? such as staff bonding/staff training camps or cultural experience camps?
thank you for any advice |
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SHANE02
Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Staff bonding= soju
Cultural experience = mountain climbing + soju + singing
These are not really obligations but they can make lie easier if you are new. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Is it in the contract? Then not legally required. But it will help your relationship with the school. |
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JBomb
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| SHANE02 wrote: |
Staff bonding= soju
Cultural experience = mountain climbing + soju + singing
These are not really obligations but they can make lie easier if you are new. |
sign me up! |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:27 am Post subject: Re: Public school overnight obligations |
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| depth wrote: |
im aware public schools have overnight summer/winter student camps
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I don't know where you get your info from, but this simply isn't correct. The only over night stuff is teachers' trips. They suck but you can always get blasted on soju. And they raise your respect around the office ten fold. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Public school overnight obligations |
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| Rusty Shackleford wrote: |
| depth wrote: |
im aware public schools have overnight summer/winter student camps
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I don't know where you get your info from, but this simply isn't correct. The only over night stuff is teachers' trips. They suck but you can always get blasted on soju. And they raise your respect around the office ten fold. |
No, there are overnight camps. You get paid extra for them, but they are required. |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:58 am Post subject: Re: Public school overnight obligations |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| Rusty Shackleford wrote: |
| depth wrote: |
im aware public schools have overnight summer/winter student camps
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I don't know where you get your info from, but this simply isn't correct. The only over night stuff is teachers' trips. They suck but you can always get blasted on soju. And they raise your respect around the office ten fold. |
No, there are overnight camps. You get paid extra for them, but they are required. |
Not in my stock standard EPIK contract they aren't. |
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Horangi Munshin
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:01 am Post subject: |
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The only overnight stuff I was asked to go on was a staff trip. The planned it right in the middle of my vacation days so of course I didn't go. They were a bit put out about that.
Then when a hagwon chain took over the running of the public school camps. The teachers were told to do overnight camps. A few did but most of us declined. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:42 am Post subject: |
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"No, there are overnight camps. You get paid extra for them, but they are required."
Sorry, but the work day ends at 4:30 or 5 and it doesnt include saturday or Sunday. I;'ve never heard of a clause that requires overnight trips. I don't even do the silly year end teachers piss-up. Cramming 20 sweaty drunk koreans into a room for 5 isn't my idea of any kind of fun or bonding. No thanks. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
"No, there are overnight camps. You get paid extra for them, but they are required."
Sorry, but the work day ends at 4:30 or 5 and it doesnt include saturday or Sunday. I;'ve never heard of a clause that requires overnight trips. I don't even do the silly year end teachers piss-up. Cramming 20 sweaty drunk koreans into a room for 5 isn't my idea of any kind of fun or bonding. No thanks. |
OK. In my province they have a clause about NSETs maybe required to work outside regular hours. This is in my contract for my province. Not all provinces are the same.
My mistake. I should have said that in my OP, but I also know of a few others who have to do this in other provinces other than mine. |
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riley
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| My school has once a year trips for the teachers but considering a) you pay for it, and b)no one from my office is going, I generally decline without worrying about consequences. |
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riley
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| My school has once a year trips for the teachers but considering a) you pay for it, and b)no one from my office is going, I generally decline without worrying about consequences. |
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MissT
Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| don't know where you get your info from, but this simply isn't correct. The only over night stuff is teachers' trips. |
No. In my province, I've done several weeks of overnight camps for the province and cities for middle school students over the past 3 years. I love doing them because they pay extra and I get to make my own lessons. Usually they are very exhausting, but also rewarding.
I've also been invited on teacher excursions, but I've never gone, as they're optional. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| poet13 wrote: |
"No, there are overnight camps. You get paid extra for them, but they are required."
Sorry, but the work day ends at 4:30 or 5 and it doesnt include saturday or Sunday. I;'ve never heard of a clause that requires overnight trips. I don't even do the silly year end teachers piss-up. Cramming 20 sweaty drunk koreans into a room for 5 isn't my idea of any kind of fun or bonding. No thanks. |
OK. In my province they have a clause about NSETs maybe required to work outside regular hours. This is in my contract for my province. Not all provinces are the same.
My mistake. I should have said that in my OP, but I also know of a few others who have to do this in other provinces other than mine. |
Is there no limit to the OT in your contract? In last year's GEPIK contract they had that clause, but it was limited to six hours of overtime...unless you agreed to more.
And doesn't your contract include ANOTHER clause which states that you will not work on Saturday or Sunday or holidays?
As far as winter camps go out of the seven camps I have done/doing I have never had to do overnights. They all have fallen within my regular work hours. These were for Gyeonggi-Do and Chungnam provinces. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Public school overnight obligations |
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| depth wrote: |
hi all,
if any of the forum experts could please advise,
im aware public schools have overnight summer/winter student camps
but,
are there any other overnight camp requirements? such as staff bonding/staff training camps or cultural experience camps?
thank you for any advice |
To answer all of your questions. Some schools have them and some don't. It all depends on your particular school/contract. |
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