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Questions abount obtaining an apartment.

 
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jonbowman88



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:42 am    Post subject: Questions abount obtaining an apartment. Reply with quote

I'd like to find my own housing for next year, and secure the 400k/month pay raise. Here are my questions/concerns:

- Giving a Korean 40 million won in key deposit money in hopes of getting it back seems absurd to me.

- Is there insurance you can buy, to get the money back if the business/landlord goes bankrupt?

- If the landlord says, �Sorry, I went bankrupt�, is there nothing you can do? I mean there is no way I�m going to move out of an apartment without getting my money back.

- I feel like when I talk to Koreans about it you should just accept it as bad luck if the landlord goes bankrupt, and move on with life. This is lunacy.

- I understand through reading older posts that, you can take landlords to court and, after a lengthy process, you can win your money back. The money is obtained by auctioning the landlords assets off which can include the apartment itself. Where can I find these kinds of auctions/foreclosures to bid on?

- I wish this would be a sticky.

Thanks
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An important first step is checking on the owner's financial status before handing over any money. Its on public record. Obviously liens on the property, unpaid bills, or overdue taxes are serious red flags. A real estate agent should customarily run this check for you, or you can do it yourself if you're Korean-capable or have a helpful friend.

The govt provides free deposit insurance but to qualify you have to register the agreement with the appropriate govt housing agency. Your agent should also assist you with this. Its not unlimited though & the cap varies depending on location. 20 mil max in my town & I've heard its up to 25 elsewhere.
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:56 am    Post subject: Re: Questions abount obtaining an apartment. Reply with quote

jonbowman88 wrote:

- I wish this would be a sticky.

Thanks


You don't get your own sticky when you just joined one week ago...

This topic (housing/apartments) already is a sticky -

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewforum.php?f=7 FAQ forum

p.s. - you don't need 40 million to get your own apartment (5 million is enough in many places of Korea) and many places in Yongsan need no keep deposit
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12bme



Joined: 20 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jonbowman88



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for the advice, I really appreciate it.

Additionally, I was not requesting my 'own' sticky. I just said I wish it was 'a' sticky because it seems like this information might be relevant to many people. I did not see the apt/housing one. I am obviously an idiot noob who doesn't frequent forums everyday like you obviously must. My deepest apologies go out for such ignorance.
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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

12bme wrote:
there are three things you need to do.

first, before signing the lease, find out if the owner took out any mortgage. you can do this by checking out the registry of the estate. the real estate agent will do it for you under your request but make sure the registry is issued on the day you're signing the lease. of course you need a trusty korean to go over the paper unless you are fluent in korean.

second, sign the lease under your name, no other.

third, upon moving in go to the dong sa mu so(동사무소, town office) in the area you're moving in with your signed lease under your name and tell them you want hwak jung il ja (확정일자) stamp on your signed lease.

unfortunately, doing all these still doesn't guarantee that you'll get all your deposit money back when the owner goes bankcrupt. what the process does is if the owner takes out any mortgage after you moved in and goes bankrupt and the property is auctioned off later on, you and other tenants who had done the same thing as you had done will be on the top of the list to get the money back EXCEPT the bank, .

the bank is unquestionably the absolute first to get the money back even though they gave a loan to the owner knowing that the owner owes you the amount of the deposit money. if there is any money left after the bank had taken their money back, then it will be divided among the tenants. so there is a possibility you might not get all your deposit back.


Yeah, this guy has it down to a "T". What he says is exactly what you
should do. However, ultimately, it may not get your key money back.
If he took all his cash and went to Thailand and blew it all in Pattaya, then
you may not see any money for a while. The "hwak jung il ja" will cover
only so much of a deadbeat's bills. This paper means you are pretty
much first in line for cash.....if there is any. I think the gov't will cover
14,000,000 won of the key money. So, you would be out 26,000,000.
This law should be reviewed for sure. (also I'm not sure if it is still valid)
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