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daddy daycare



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: undergoing gastric banding to lose weight Reply with quote

Seeing that people are discussing the Weight Topic, here is a question I have Question


Where in Korea can I have a gastric banding operation done...

I am a big man, and have been suffering with my weight most of my life....

If anyone knows where I can have this done, please supply me with contact details.......

Please read the following which will explain the procedure more clearly

The gastric banding operation is performed under general anaesthesia. The procedure performed is a laparoscopic operation, duration one and a half hours.

The band is placed around the top portion of your stomach, such that the stomach is partitioned into a very small upper portion and a much larger lower portion. This allows you to achieve early satiety (sensation of fullness) so that you can diminish food intake considerably. The band allows you to transform your diet to three small balanced meals a day. Supplements are not necessary. There are no unpleasant side effects such as diarrhea. The band is connected by tubing to a subcutaneous (under the skin) port or well. This allows for band adjustments by saline inflation during postoperative office visits. For this reason the procedure is often referred to as laparoscopic adjustable gastric banding (LAGB). The first fill is done at six weeks.

Expectations:

The operation has proved to be very safe. This has been achieved because of caution, care and attention to detail. The banding operation has also been remarkably successful in achieving weight loss. The vast majority of patients has successfully lost fifty per cent or more of excess weight by one year. This means for example that should your BMI be 46, you would be expected to achieve a BMI of 34 within a year. The time frame considered is a year. A weight loss of this magnitude at a year is regarded as success. You can appreciate that such weight loss impacts very positively on your health. Bands are left in position indefinitely. Removal is not necessary. Nevertheless, a tremendous advantage of the band is that of potential reversibility. The band can be removed, and this restores anatomic normality.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend died from this a few months back. As much as you think it's worth the risk, imagine how differently your friends and family will feel if something happens to you. Saying something is very safe is very different from saying it is completely safe. It's not advisable by any genuine medical professional to put any overweight person under anesthesia, just to begin with.

I'm not a fat nazi like most of the douchebags on this board. I'm quite fat, myself actually. So I'm not going to go all "lazy slob" on you -- but I do think that if you have a problem with your weight and the way it affects your life, you owe it to yourself to exhaust every possible alternative before you turn to something like this. Afterall, it treats only the symptom (weight gain), not the disease (overeating).

(WHICH is not to say that all fat people overeat -- but if putting a band around your stomach to limit your portion intake would be a solution to your weight problem, then it is because you overeat.)

Anyway. I know people won't pay attention to what anyone else says once they get something like this in their head. But I felt I owed it to my friend to at least say something. Good luck.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So sorry to hear about your friend's death. Would you mind me asking you how exactly did it happen? During the operation or post-operation? Just wondering.
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bundangbabo



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the gastric bypass is the anwser mate, I believe that overeating is a symptom of depression (as is drug taking, alcohol abuse
etc)

I know you may not want to hear it but one way of fighting the depression and raising your self esteem is exercise and taking up a sport. It isn't easy to start of from having a sedentary lifestyle to an active one but it works if you give it a fair chance and don't give up. Two good videos to watch for inspiration.

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=_9XJMUrRFPA&feature=related


http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=aGXCRhHeUgk

Dieting is tough - but one thing to have is a goal, a vision and once people see you getting to your goal weight - they are always very encouraging! Especially in this country - bad thing - they tell you that you are fat - good thing - once you start losing weight they aren't slow to tell you either - take advantage!
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harpeau wrote:
So sorry to hear about your friend's death. Would you mind me asking you how exactly did it happen? During the operation or post-operation? Just wondering.


Post operation, actually. I'm not sure of the exact details, but her body basically had a pretty violent reaction to the foreign materials. I'm not sure if her doctor failed to check something pre-op, or if her check ups were not thorough enough post-op, or what the hell went wrong. But beyond the basic medical risks of this kind of thing, the doctors who perform them are usually ethically questionable to begin with, and therefore not people you want touching your body at all.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP.

It's not my place to say what or what would not be best for YOU, but I will say that you should really consider it as a last resort option given some of the potential complications and problems that may arise.

A surgical approach will never be a better option than doing something naturally, if possible. Have you truly exhausted those possibilities or is it a matter of willpower and an easy (easier) way out?

Anyways, consult an English speaking doctor at one of the international clinics/hospitals and they may be able to steer you to a specialist.
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adeline



Joined: 19 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Picasso wrote:
Harpeau wrote:
So sorry to hear about your friend's death. Would you mind me asking you how exactly did it happen? During the operation or post-operation? Just wondering.


Post operation, actually. I'm not sure of the exact details, but her body basically had a pretty violent reaction to the foreign materials. I'm not sure if her doctor failed to check something pre-op, or if her check ups were not thorough enough post-op, or what the hell went wrong. But beyond the basic medical risks of this kind of thing, the doctors who perform them are usually ethically questionable to begin with, and therefore not people you want touching your body at all.


eek, I know you're grieving but this is absolutely not an ethically questionable surgery and doctors doing it don't deserve to be slandered. Sure there are some doctors who are very bad, but this is by no means a majority, or even a small minority. This doesn't mean that the surgery is good for everyone, but it is necessary for many. Personally I would try to avoid major surgery of any kind at all costs out of my home country, but that is up to the individual. Also I think the surgery is incredibly rare in Korea, because they don't have nearly as many obese people, so their doctors may be inexperienced. My advice is to go home to get it done. If your health is more important than your job, and you really can't do it any other way, take a year off to go back home.
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Katchafire



Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Location: Non curo. Si metrum non habet, non est poema

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi DD, I too am planning on having this operation done. I should have enough saved by the end of my current contract (September).
I asked around a few months ago about this type of surgery here. One thing that was suggested however, was that Korea was perhaps not the best, experienced place to have this type of operation.

IM me and I'll pass on the info if you like.

Smile

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Countrygirl



Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Location: in the classroom

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another option you could try before the gastric bypass is Oriental medicine and accupunture. A student I have has been doing this for a few months and she has lost a lot of weight. It does take time and money, but I believe that gastric bypass will always affect your health even if you get it reversed.

I would second what another poster said...do this back home where they know what the hell they are doing. Too many Korean doctors tell you what you want to hear and try to make the sale without caring that they are playing with your health and life. My adult students compare doctors to mechanics.

Anyways, good luck and hope you find what you are looking for.
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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bundangbabo wrote:
I don't think the gastric bypass is the anwser mate, I believe that overeating is a symptom of depression (as is drug taking, alcohol abuse, etc)

I know you may not want to hear it but one way of fighting the depression and raising your self esteem is exercise and taking up a sport. It isn't easy to start of from having a sedentary lifestyle to an active one but it works if you give it a fair chance and don't give up. Two good videos to watch for inspiration.

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=_9XJMUrRFPA&feature=related


http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=aGXCRhHeUgk

Dieting is tough - but one thing to have is a goal, a vision and once people see you getting to your goal weight - they are always very encouraging! Especially in this country - bad thing - they tell you that you are fat - good thing - once you start losing weight they aren't slow to tell you either - take advantage!


This is a really good post. I remember sitting in the doctor's office in the US and being told to try harder. It made me so frustrated, but I just dealt with it and continued being fat for probably 4 more years. Then I moved over here and the drinking, smoking, and eating got a bit too intense: 420 lbs intense. I didn't take my vices as symptons of depression, anxiety, or general unhappiness, but they were.

3 months after moving to China I had enough and have been working past it since: 6'1 and 215 lbs now.

a few things:

1. As frustrated as I was at the doctor for telling me to work harder, she was right. You can do this without the surgery.

2. Bundangbabo's info is good, check into it.

3. Feel free to PM me for support or ideas. I have some nutrition files and advice to get you started with knowledge.

EDIT: typo


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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't do this kind of thing in Korea. I can't imagine they do very many of them! Doctors need practice, just like everyone else. (and no, I'm not slandering any Korean doctors, just saying you should try to find someone who's done a lot of them successfully)
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gazz



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This type of surgery seems a bit extreme to me, maybe (and I�m not taking the p*ss here) you should consider having your jaw wired shut?

I would imagine that this procedure would be a lot safer, and would give similar results?
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How the **** did you stay fat in Korea?

Unless you have a thyroid problem or drink 3 bottles of soju a day, you should have lost significant amounts of weight by living here alone...

I hate to be a *beep*(heck who I'am I kidding) but I suggest you either see a doctor about a thyroid problem or stop downing Krispy creme boxes into you belly....koreans LOVE ice cream, baked goods, and carbs galore yet I rarely ever see a fat one.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ukon wrote:

Unless you have a thyroid problem or drink 3 bottles of soju a day, you should have lost significant amounts of weight by living here alone...


I'm not a heavy drinker, nor do I eat too much junk food (mostly Korean food) but I haven't managed to lose any weight during my nearly 2 years in Korea. Haven't gained any, either though.

Try not to be so quick to generalize. Cool
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