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GreenlightmeansGO



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:46 am    Post subject: 'Foreign English teachers are stupid, poor and unqualified' Reply with quote

Hi, just wanted to report what my girlfriend heard today. She went to her family get-together thing for Seollal and saw her cousin's wife. The wife is about 45 and works at some Hagwon (not sure if she's a secretary or a teacher), her main achievement in life being that she spent a year in Brazil.

Well, somehow she got onto speaking about foreign teachers (I think it started off being about foreigners dating Koreans), not knowing that my girlfriend is dating a foreigner (that would be me). My girlfriend reports that she said that foreigners were stupid, unqualified, poor and couldn't get jobs in their own countries. My girlfriend tried to defend foreigners, but the woman just wouldn't listen. She claims to work with two foreigners and they are qualified, but most people do not have certificates.

She must really feel lucky, working with two of the very few qualified people in Korea. Wish I could meet those folks. I'm depressed by this and my girlfriend is angry at the ignorance.

Ah, I remember how it started - they told my girlfriend she needs to get married soon, but not to a foreigner. I had thought that these feelings were sometimes exaggerated in what I've read, but I guess I was wrong.

If ever I meet this woman, I'm going to shove my certificates down her throat...and maybe defecate on her for added measure.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:51 am    Post subject: Re: 'Foreign English teachers are stupid, poor and unqualifi Reply with quote

GreenlightmeansGO wrote:
My girlfriend tried to defend foreigners, but the woman just wouldn't listen.


Sounds like something not to worry about. If a person wouldn't know their brain from a hole in the ground they certainly aren't open to conversion.
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Thedudeabides



Joined: 15 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:52 am    Post subject: Re: 'Foreign English teachers are stupid, poor and unqualifi Reply with quote

GreenlightmeansGO wrote:
If ever I meet this woman, I'm going to shove my certificates down her throat...and maybe defecate on her for added measure.


That will definitely improve her opinion of foreigners!

I understand how you feel, but the best way to deal with the Koreans' collective ignorance is to ignore it. Don't empower them by showing anger.
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exit86



Joined: 17 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She forgot to add:

--drug-taking
-drug-selling
--drug smuggling
--sexual perverted
--opportunist
--criminals

(I know I'm forgetting something . . .)
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fadedgirl



Joined: 26 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She sounds pretty ignorant,
but I'm sure she'd change her tone once she met you.
Did you talk to your girlfriend about it?

My Thai aunt doesn't like Americans. Too bad I'm American and she's stuck with me.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fadedgirl wrote:
She sounds pretty ignorant, but I'm sure she'd change her tone once she met you.


Of course. She'd probably fake kindness, invite you to dinner, and see if you'd start teaching her kids English.
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travelingfool



Joined: 10 Mar 2008
Location: Parents' basement

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: 'Foreign English teachers are stupid, poor and unqualifi Reply with quote

GreenlightmeansGO wrote:
Hi, just wanted to report what my girlfriend heard today. She went to her family get-together thing for Seollal and saw her cousin's wife. The wife is about 45 and works at some Hagwon (not sure if she's a secretary or a teacher), her main achievement in life being that she spent a year in Brazil.

Well, somehow she got onto speaking about foreign teachers (I think it started off being about foreigners dating Koreans), not knowing that my girlfriend is dating a foreigner (that would be me). My girlfriend reports that she said that foreigners were stupid, unqualified, poor and couldn't get jobs in their own countries. My girlfriend tried to defend foreigners, but the woman just wouldn't listen. She claims to work with two foreigners and they are qualified, but most people do not have certificates.

She must really feel lucky, working with two of the very few qualified people in Korea. Wish I could meet those folks. I'm depressed by this and my girlfriend is angry at the ignorance.

Ah, I remember how it started - they told my girlfriend she needs to get married soon, but not to a foreigner. I had thought that these feelings were sometimes exaggerated in what I've read, but I guess I was wrong.

If ever I meet this woman, I'm going to shove my certificates down her throat...and maybe defecate on her for added measure.


What does that say about the Koreans who hired them?? Confused

Unfortunately I think this sentiment is much more pervasive than westerners realize. It kind of sucks for people who are there really trying to do the best job they can.
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Mr-Dokdo



Joined: 16 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: 'Foreign English teachers are stupid, poor and unqualifi Reply with quote

GreenlightmeansGO wrote:
Hi, just wanted to report what my girlfriend heard today. She went to her family get-together thing for Seollal and saw her cousin's wife. The wife is about 45 and works at some Hagwon (not sure if she's a secretary or a teacher), her main achievement in life being that she spent a year in Brazil.

Well, somehow she got onto speaking about foreign teachers (I think it started off being about foreigners dating Koreans), not knowing that my girlfriend is dating a foreigner (that would be me). My girlfriend reports that she said that foreigners were stupid, unqualified, poor and couldn't get jobs in their own countries. My girlfriend tried to defend foreigners, but the woman just wouldn't listen. She claims to work with two foreigners and they are qualified, but most people do not have certificates.

She must really feel lucky, working with two of the very few qualified people in Korea. Wish I could meet those folks. I'm depressed by this and my girlfriend is angry at the ignorance.

Ah, I remember how it started - they told my girlfriend she needs to get married soon, but not to a foreigner. I had thought that these feelings were sometimes exaggerated in what I've read, but I guess I was wrong.

If ever I meet this woman, I'm going to shove my certificates down her throat...and maybe defecate on her for added measure.


The world is full of idiots; you shouldn't get depressed every time you learn of or deal with one.
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ManintheMiddle



Joined: 20 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marlowe noted:

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Of course. She'd probably fake kindness, invite you to dinner, and see if you'd start teaching her kids English.


Bingo, bruddah.

Many (most?) Asians consider themselves superior to Westerners although few openly admit it. It's a more subtle form of racism or national chauvanism, and Koreans use it to mask a lingering sense of inferiority. Where it gets confusing for them is in deciding which Asian nationality reigns supreme. Rolling Eyes

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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it doesn't help that we've all met foreign English teachers who live up to that reputation nicely.
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clay4bc



Joined: 01 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

exit86 wrote:
She forgot to add:

--drug-taking
-drug-selling
--drug smuggling
--sexual perverted
--opportunist
--criminals

(I know I'm forgetting something . . .)


AIDS - you forgot that we all have AIDS....
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact remains that if the teachers graduated uni, then they ARE qualified. If they didn't then her boss is employing people illegally.

OP. There are ignorant people in Korea. Not all Koreans are ignorant.
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clay4bc wrote:
exit86 wrote:
She forgot to add:

--drug-taking
-drug-selling
--drug smuggling
--sexual perverted
--opportunist
--criminals

(I know I'm forgetting something . . .)


AIDS - you forgot that we all have AIDS....


and that we brought homosexuality to korea
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHANE02 wrote:
The fact remains that if the teachers graduated uni, then they ARE qualified. If they didn't then her boss is employing people illegally.




YES!

I wish the newspapers would figure this one out!
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And....hakwon owners NEED NO QUALIFICATIONS AT ALL and no *beep* all about education while usually not being able to speak English.
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