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Teaching Object Pronouns?

 
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:41 pm    Post subject: Teaching Object Pronouns? Reply with quote

I really could use some good exercises for teaching when to use subject and when to use object pronouns. What seems to mostly happen is that kids get a list of the subject pronouns and a list of the object ones and figure out which exercise to use which on without learning the principle behind it for a looooooooooong time. My Korea is too bad for me to explain the principle of it properly, and just giving a lot of examples of when to use each doesn't seem to work for the little kids (who have hard enough time with he/they/we).

Any ideas? This is far and away the bit of English grammar that I've hard the hardest time communicating.

Thanks!
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matthewwoodford



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not figuring out the principles behind it for a long time or ever is the rule here for all grammatical rules in my experience. Firstly, you've got to keep reminding yourself how hard this is for them. If they're too young they might not get it no matter how well you explain it.

If they're over ten years old you might try giving them a set of cards of transitive verbs, object pronouns and subject pronouns, ideally coloured differently, and have them make sentences. That ought to help them at least remember that subject pronouns go before and object pronouns after the verb. For extra fun you could try them with intransitive verbs making subject-verb sentences, demonstrating that object pronouns aren't needed - and from there you could work up to prepositions, conjunctions, who knows...Can't think of anything better offhand, sorry.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthewwoodford wrote:
Not figuring out the principles behind it for a long time or ever is the rule here for all grammatical rules in my experience. Firstly, you've got to keep reminding yourself how hard this is for them. If they're too young they might not get it no matter how well you explain it.



Oh balls, direct objects is one of the few areas that English grammar has in common with Korean grammar.

When it comes up, I write out a list that's a bit like this. By this point they'll have had some exposure to subject pronouns:

English subj. pro. Korean subj. pro. Eng. Obj. Pro. Kor. Obj. Pro

I ���� me ����
you �ʴ� you �ʸ�
we �츮�� us �츮��
they �׵��� them �׵���
he �״� him �׸�
she �׳�� her �׳ฦ
it �װ��� it �װ���

I tried to put this in table format, but this BB format doesn't seem to be very conducive to that. Set the encoding to Korean, and you should get the gist.

Once it comes to possessives, replace ��/�� with �� for possessive adjectives, and then �� �� for possessive pronouns and you have a good quick and dirty start.

Again, many of these pronouns are not in regular use, but any Korean kid elementary school or older will understand them. This is just a quick and dirty explanation.

Some English only nazi is going to flame me, but if you're starting out at a level this low, this kind of explanation is better than anything you can give someone at this level trying to use no English whatsoever.
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matthewwoodford



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo:

It occurred to me to use that kind of approach and I would definitely use it with older kids but I just wonder if 9 and 10 year olds are ready for it. Thinking back to when I was 9, most of us didn't know squat about English grammar and I wonder if the young kids here know anything about Korean grammar. The topic particle might be a cause of confusion as well but I just don't know how I would explain that little can of worms to ten year olds other than telling them 'eun'/'neun' is the same as the subject, something which I am loath to do.

If it works fine in your experience please let me know.
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