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So... what's it like living with 1.8 under SMOE?
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reimund



Joined: 01 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:14 am    Post subject: So... what's it like living with 1.8 under SMOE? Reply with quote

I'm currently thinking of applying for a job with SMOE, but the 1.8 million won a month salary, with the current exchange rate, is scaring me.

Is anyone working for SMOE at this rate? If so, how is it in terms of life style and savings?
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was getting that at a hakwon in 2000. No offence but why would you take that.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though I'm gettng 2.7 mill a month soon....I had to wait it out on 1.8 for the first six months becuase I was too lazy to complete the tefl course and they wanted after shcool classes to start after they constructed a new english class room.

It was alright....I still had a blast living here...you won't be saving much in Seoul however......get a online tefl certificate and you'll get an instant 200k a month payraise....you'll likely get some after shcool class...and if you dont...get a private....
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ukon wrote:
Even though I'm gettng 2.7 mill a month soon....I had to wait it out on 1.8 for the first six months.


Is that 2.7 including your housing? If not, that doesn't make sense. 2.7 is at the top of SMOE's payscale. No way you went from 1.8 to 2.7 in 6 months!
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Ukon wrote:
Even though I'm gettng 2.7 mill a month soon....I had to wait it out on 1.8 for the first six months.


Is that 2.7 including your housing? If not, that doesn't make sense. 2.7 is at the top of SMOE's payscale. No way you went from 1.8 to 2.7 in 6 months!


It's tefl cert + 1 year experience + overtime, I think.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Pay rise Reply with quote

Is the pay rise really instant? I work with GEPIK and I thought that you would submit your certificate when starting a new contract and then you'd get the rise.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Pay rise Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
Is the pay rise really instant? I work with GEPIK and I thought that you would submit your certificate when starting a new contract and then you'd get the rise.


yes, the next pay check nets you the raise...it's in your contract.

yes, my housing is included.....how much SMOE pays for over time depends on the school... I have very generous benefactors Laughing

Also, I'm still in my first year....when semptember rolls around, I'll get another raise automatically bumping my pay to 2.9 mil a month.... Laughing
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone has 2 years experience with GEPIK and a TESOL certificate, what is the starting salary?

If it's less than 2.5, I'll stick with GEPIK a bit longer. Laughing
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crsandus



Joined: 05 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hello Teachers,

As of January 1st of 2009, teachers will need to finish and show Original TEFL/TESOL 3 (three) Months before the Contract Due Date.

Some teachers work on getting their TEFL/TESOL Certificate during their contract term.

If your contract ends Feb. 28,2009, you have to turn in your TEFL/TESOL November 2008 to be qualified for the Upgrade.

If your Contract ends August 24, 2009, you have to turn in your TEFL/TESOL May 2009 to be qualified for the Upgrade.


Thank you,

Jon Pak


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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: So... what's it like living with 1.8 under SMOE? Reply with quote

reimund wrote:
If so, how is it in terms of life style and savings?


Well, you're making $10 per hour; what do you think? Oh yeah, you get a "free" shoebox to live in, too.
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm EPIK first year with no tefl cert and make around 2.3 doing an extra hour per day 20 weeks of the year. You have to try and get the extra "after school classes. Half of mine fall in normal hours anyway.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have the payscale in front of me, but 2.7 in SMOE requires something like a masters degree and 3-4 years teaching experience. There is no way that in 1 year someone on 1.8 base salary moved up to 2.7, with a TEFL or with a Masters degree.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone has 2 years experience with GEPIK and a TESOL certificate, what is the starting salary?

If it's less than 2.5, I'll stick with GEPIK a bit longer.

I've just checked one of my old threads, poet told me the answer is 2.3. I forgot. Laughing
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
I don't have the payscale in front of me, but 2.7 in SMOE requires something like a masters degree and 3-4 years teaching experience. There is no way that in 1 year someone on 1.8 base salary moved up to 2.7, with a TEFL or with a Masters degree.


After school classes for me - $700 a month
Online TEFL Certificate - $200 a month bonus
At the end of the first year I get another $200 a month raise... I'll still be working under thirty hours a week.

That's a $1100 raise from when I stepped off the plane....

That s why I keep telling every single dummy who says "PS jobs suck for pay" While the rate varies, it can be very high. I've even heard of some lucky dudes making 4 mil a month at a PS job.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ukon wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
I don't have the payscale in front of me, but 2.7 in SMOE requires something like a masters degree and 3-4 years teaching experience. There is no way that in 1 year someone on 1.8 base salary moved up to 2.7, with a TEFL or with a Masters degree.


After school classes for me - $700 a month
Online TEFL Certificate - $200 a month bonus
At the end of the first year I get another $200 a month raise... I'll still be working under thirty hours a week.

That's a $1100 raise from when I stepped off the plane....

That s why I keep telling every single dummy who says "PS jobs suck for pay" While the rate varies, it can be very high. I've even heard of some lucky dudes making 4 mil a month at a PS job.


Okay... 99% of PS jobs suck for pay. Happy now? Laughing

I was the only person I knew in PS who got overtime, I also got 100,000 won a month more because I worked in the real boonies and they all worked in "town". Not not not woooooorth it! For this extra 200,000 won a month I had to work an extra 7-10 hours a week (depending on the week and who I was comparing schedules with). That's $6/hour. Thanks, EPIK!

The total pay still sucked, also, forgot to mention that. In my best month I got 2.3. OOOOOOOOOH. Rolling Eyes
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