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[fiveeagles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2CaBR3z85c&eurl=http://thepoliticaljungle.blogspot.com/2009/01/obamas-life-story-made-into-anti.html

[hogwonguy1979]

does fiveeagles get it?

as Obama said to the republicans when meeting about the stimulus package:

I WON!!!!!!!

now deal with it

[Straphanger]

Heh. You guys will do anything to push your agenda. There's crazy, there's incompetent, there's Christwalker, and then there's that little step above where someone wants to not only be everywhere and anywhere, including inside a woman's body, but also completely out of spacetime and predict the future.

That's where you get Catholic Crazy (TM). From the people that brought you the Crusades!

Crazy with a side of crazy with crazy dressing. Get it while it's hot!

[ManintheMiddle]

Mr. Buckeye State:

Nothing wrong with gloating that you won, most pols can resist saying it. But Obama claimed he was going to rise above the fray and reach across the aisle. Seems like he's only reaching to jab at the moment. He's all filled with vim and vigor at the moment, though. Probably has a poster of Obama Girl in the Oval Office by now.

Got it now?

[hogwonguy1979]

[The Hammer]

[Ya-ta Boy]

Bipartisanship is a good thing; a stimulus bill targeted at building/repairing infrastructure is a good thing. Unfortunately, when you try to achieve both at the same time, you get a watered down stimulus bill weakened by tax cuts to attract votes from across the aisle. I hope the Senate strips out the other parts of the bill that are not really job-producing/infrastructure building. It can do that because the Senate is designed to be more insulated from public pressure.

I'm not concerned that the bill doesn't address the banking problem. I think that has to be addressed separately, but at the same time. The stimulus bill won't have any hope of achieving it's goal if the other problem is not fixed, and soon. If nationalizing the banks is what is needed, so be it.

I just started reading Jonathan Alter's book on FDR's 100 Days (good writing and reading!) and was struck by this, especially the last sentence:

(From the Prologue: Sunday, March 5, 1933 p. 2-3)
As frightening as life had become since the Great Depression began, this was the bottom, though no one knew that at the time. The official national unemployment rate stood at 25 percent, but that figure was widely considered to be low. Among non-farm workers, unemployment was more than 37 percent, and in some areas, like Toledo, Ohio, it reached 80 percent. Business investment was down 90 percent from 1929. Per capita real income was lower than three decades earlier, at the turn of the century. If you were unfortunate enough to have put your money in a bank that went bust, you were wiped out. With no idea whether any banks would reopen, millions of people hid their few remaining assest under their mattresses, where no one could steal them at night without a fight. The savings that many Americans had spent a lifetime accumulating were severely depleted or gone, along with 16 million of their jobs. When would they come back? Maybe never. The great British economist John Maynard Keynes was asked by a reporter the previous summer if there were any precedent for what had happened to the world's economy. He replied yes, it lasted four hundred years and was called the Dark Ages.

[ManintheMiddle]

hogwonguy1979 replied:

[Pluto]

Some of Obama's supporters have unrealistic expectations, hence the reason for this avatar. At any rate, Obama will have learn how to say no to the liberal machinations of Pelosi and Co. if he truly wishes to be successful. There is precedent to this too. I remember in 1992 when Bob Dole was working with 43 Senators and after the '94 elections Bill Clinton was staring down a Republican Senate and House for his inability to say no. Should Obama not grow a backbone and give Congressional Dems everything they want, it may not be long before Obama is declaring an end to big government... again.

[fiveeagles]

[The Hammer]

[fiveeagles]

[Privateer]

Republicanism: what's in it for fundamentalist Christians? Why do they worship it? Does anyone get that?

I mean, haven't they read the line in the Bible about the impossibility of serving both God and Mammon?

[huffdaddy]

Why do you have an avatar of a guy getting a wrap around from the Sistine Chapel?

[fiveeagles]

haha...are you serious?

It's Fedor giving God an armbar.