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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:16 am Post subject: Martin Sheen Questions Official 9/11 Story |
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/
Martin Sheen Questions Official 9/11 Story
Actor Martin Sheen questioned the official 9/11 story, as well as the collapse of Building 7 and Larry Silverstein's "pull it" comment during an anti-war march this past weekend in Los Angeles, saying that recent revelations about the attacks had caused him to have doubts. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. When did he become a structural engineer? |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
Wow. When did he become a structural engineer? |
prolly the same time you did. |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
Wow. When did he become a structural engineer? |
No, he has a functioning brain and can think for himself. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I'm just curious as to why much of the media has refused to discuss the bombs that went off inside the twin towers on 9/11.... 
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't Charlie say the same thing a couple of months ago? I'll bet the two are planning a movie about this. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Harpeau wrote: |
I'm just curious as to why much of the media has refused to discuss the bombs that went off inside the twin towers on 9/11. |
good question...according to the decieved, there were no bombs. everyone is mistaken. somehow firefighters have been reduced to moronic idiots that don't know the difference between explosions and collapse or molten metal and hot liquid.
truly mind boggling. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
Wow. When did he become a structural engineer? |
Ah, so you've returned, mm2. thought the waters were getting to rough for you to tread. please feel free to pick apart the Dr. Jones paper I posted a link to on the other thread.
In case you haven't noticed, the paradigm has shifted since you were last here. Now all the posters who were sooo sure of the official story, have changed their tune. Now it's, "the government could/probably is covering up something, but it's just to cover up their own incompetence."
Funny thing is, how do they know what the government is covering up? How can they know what is secret? That's right, they're infering!!! They're guessing, based on evidence! Imagine that.
Anyways, I encourage you to read the Jones paper, it will explain, for example, how the NIST study was not done scientifically. It will show how they began with a conclusion (structural failure due to fire) and tried to find evidence or a computer simulation that would fit that conclusion. Then when that didn't work, they asked outside groups to have a go at it, but to not consider what happened in WTC7 from floors 1-8. He also explains how it would be impossible for a building to fall unimpeded to the ground from top to bottom, unless all of the structural supports in the building were obliterated, which no one is claiming. Basically, they have no explanation for what happened to WTC7, and they aren't looking, and they are not releasing the report.
Have a look at the Jones paper. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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blaseblasphemener wrote: |
Have a look at the Jones paper. |
What?! You mean this Jones?!
BTW, FWIW, in spite of our differences at certain times, I like Mindmetoo. He is one of the more intelligent posters on this board. I'm not declaring "holy war" on people that disagree with me. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this and believe that each and every one of us needs to remain open-minded. I hope that we can put more light and less heat on our discussion.
Cheers! |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Harpeau wrote: |
blaseblasphemener wrote: |
Have a look at the Jones paper. |
What?! You mean this Jones?!
BTW, FWIW, in spite of our differences at certain times, I like Mindmetoo. He is one of the more intelligent posters on this board. I'm not declaring "holy war" on people that disagree with me. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this and believe that each and every one of us needs to remain open-minded. I hope that we can put more light and less heat on our discussion.
Cheers! |
Hard to do that when one side has nothing to say but to throw "tin foil" hat references ad nauseum. Loose ends actually did his best to just stick to the facts, which has caused many true believers to just give up.
Deep down though, they smell a rat, and that's whey have now turned tail and are saying there is a cover-up, but just of the governments incompetence. Somehow they know about the secret information. However, they, like the NIST, always try to sweep WTC7 under the rug and forget about it. It's the smoking gun, after all. |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Martin Sheen is a second-rate actor, a third-rate activist, and a fourth-rate structural engineer.
He's a moonbat from the word go. He was and is a womanizer, a trait he passed on to his son Charlie, (not the Tuna), who is an even bigger loser.
They represent most of what's wrong with Hollywood these days.
Even the two Bills (Maher and Clinton) recently called the Building 7 charges idiotic nonsense...
which means that keane/EFLT and regicide and igotthisguitar will no doubt give it some credence. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Martin Sheen is a second-rate actor, a third-rate activist, and a fourth-rate structural engineer.
He's a moonbat from the word go. He was and is a womanizer, a trait he passed on to his son Charlie, (not the Tuna), who is an even bigger loser.
They represent most of what's wrong with Hollywood these days.
Even the two Bills (Maher and Clinton) recently called the Building 7 charges idiotic nonsense...
which means that keane/EFLT and regicide and igotthisguitar will no doubt give it some credence. |
come back when you have your facts straight. loose ends will bend you over and take you to the wood shed if you try and defend the official story of WTC7. |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry I neglected to include your name on the previous list. Guess I was just feeling blase.  |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Sorry I neglected to include your name on the previous list. Guess I was just feeling blase.  |
you're forgiven. but mcgarrett, you're waaaaayyy out of the loop if you think nobody in the mainstream is question WTC7. Why do you think the NIST has still not released their findings? Oh, that's right, because they have no explanation that fits the official story. Do yourself a favor and get educated, unless you prefer to be in the dark about it. |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently his son does, too.
Twenty Minutes with the President
Posted: 2009/09/08
Open Letter to U.S. President Barack Obama by famous actor Charlie Sheen
By Charlie Sheen
I recently had the pleasure of sitting down with our 44th President of the United States of America, Barack Hussein Obama, while he was out promoting his health care reform initiative. I requested 30 minutes given the scope and detail of my inquiry; they said I could have 20. Twenty minutes, 1200 seconds, not a lot of time to question the President about one of the most important events in our nation�s history. The following is a transcript of our remarkable discussion.
(introductory pleasantries)
CS � Sir, in the very near future we will be experiencing our first 9/11 anniversary with you as Commander in Chief.
PBO � Yes. A very solemn day for our Nation. A day of reflection and yet a day of historical consciousness as well.
CS � Very much so sir, very much so indeed�. Now; In researching your position regarding the events of 9/11 and the subsequent investigation that followed, am I correct to understand that you fully support and endorse the findings of the commission report otherwise known as the �official story�?
PBO � Do I have any reason not to? Given that most of us are presumably in touch with similar evidence.
CS � I really wish that were the case, sir. Are you aware, Mr. President, of the recent stunning revelations that sixty percent of the 9/11 commissioners have publicly stated that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11 and that the Pentagon was engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack?
PBO � I am aware of certain �in fighting� during the course of their very thorough and tireless investigative process.
CS � Mr. President, it�s hard to label this type of friction as �in fighting� or make the irresponsible leap to �thorough,� when the evidence I insist you examine regarding 6 of the 10 members are statements of fact.
PBO � No disrespect Mr. Sheen, but I have to ask; what is it that you seem to be implying with the initial direction of this discussion?
CS � I am not implying anything Mr. President. I am here to present the facts and see what you plan to do with them.
PBO � Let me guess; your �facts,� allegedly supporting these claims are in the folders you brought with you?
CS � Good guess Mr. President.
(I hand the first folder of documents to the President)
CS � Again sir, these are not my opinions or assumptions, this is all a matter of public record, reported through mainstream media, painstakingly fact checked and verified.
(the President glances into the folder I handed him)
CS � You�ll notice sir on page one of the dossier dated August of �06 from the Washington Post, the statements of John Farmer, senior council to the 9/11 commission, his quote stating, �I was shocked how different the truth was from the way it was described.�
CS � He goes on to further state �The [NORAD Air Defense] tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years�.�
(the President continues to view the documents)
CS � On pages two and three, sir, are the statements, as well, from commission co-chairmen Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, commissioners Bob Kerrey, Timothy Roemer and John Lehman, as well as the statements of commissioner Max Cleland, an ex-Senator from Georgia , who resigned, stating:
�It is a national scandal. This investigation is now compromised. One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9/11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up.�
He also described President Bush�s desire to delay the process as not to damage the �04 re-election bid. They suspected deception to the point where they considered referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation. Mr. President, this information alone is unequivocally grounds for a new investigation!
PBO � Mistakes were clearly made but we as a people and as a country need to move forward. It is obviously in our best interest as a democratic society to focus our efforts and our resources on the future of this great nation and our ability to protect the American people and our allies from this type of terrorism in the coming years.
CS � Sir, how can we focus on the future when THE COMMISSION ITSELF is on record stating that they still do not know the truth??
PBO � Even if what you state, might in some capacity, begin to approach an open discussion or balanced debate, I can�t speak for, or about the decisions certain commission members made during an extremely difficult period. Perhaps you should be interviewing them instead of me. Wait, don�t tell me; I was easier to track down than they were?
CS � Not exactly sir, but let�s be honest. You�re the President of the United States, the leader of the free world, the buck stops with you. 9/11 has been the pretext for the systematic dismantling of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Your administration is reading from the same playbook that the Bush administration foisted on America through documented secrecy and deception.
PBO � Mr. Sheen, I�m having a difficult time sitting here and listening to you draw distorted parallels between the Bush/Cheney regime and mine.
CS � Mr. President the parallels are not distorted just because you say they are. Let�s stick to the facts. You promised to abolish the Patriot Act and then voted to re-authorize it. You pledged to end warrantless wire tapping against the American people and now energetically defend it. You decried the practice of rendition and now continue it. You promised over and over again on the campaign trail, that you would end the practice of indefinite detention and instead, you have expanded it to permanent detention of �detainees� without trial. This far exceeds the outrages of the former administration. Call me crazy Mr. President, but is this not your record?
PBO � Mr. Sheen, my staff and I authorized this interview based on your request to discuss 9/11 and deliver some additional information you�re convinced I�d not previously reviewed. Call me crazy, But it appears as though you�ve blindly wandered off topic.
CS � Sir, the examples I just illustrated are a direct result of 9/11.
PBO � And I�m telling you that we must move forward, we must endure through these dangerous and politically challenging years ahead.
CS � Mr. President, we cannot move forward with a bottomless warren of unanswered questions surrounding that day and its aftermath.
PBO � I read the official report. Every word every page. Perhaps you should do the same.
CS � I have sir, and so have thousands of family members of the victims, and guess what; they have the same questions I do and probably a lot more. I didn�t lose a loved one on that horrific day Mr. President and neither did you. But since then I, along with millions of other Americans lost something we held true and dear for most of our lives in this great country of ours; we lost our hope.
PBO � And I�d like to believe that I am here to restore that hope. To restore confidence in your leaders, in the system that the voting public chose through a peaceful transfer of power.
(An odd moment of silence between us. Precious time ticking away).
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