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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:43 pm    Post subject: Toxic Haze Returns Reply with quote

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The smog worsened in Seoul on Sunday morning as the winds continued to blow in from China. The concentration of ultrafine particles in the capital surged to 165㎍/㎥.

Ahn Joon-young at the National Institute of Environmental Research warned that a "cocktail" of dust and toxic particles from China could blow over into the Korean Peninsula "at any time" and predicted the phenomenon will become more frequent.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/11/25/2013112500577.html

Stock up on face masks to wear to protect your health.
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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

typical masks aren't effective after 20 minutes. if you're that worried about it you're going to need to change them frequently or just get a respirator.

that said, china really needs to get with it and cut their coal use and make the switch to thorium reactors.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wishfullthinkng wrote:
typical masks aren't effective after 20 minutes. if you're that worried about it you're going to need to change them frequently or just get a respirator.

that said, china really needs to get with it and cut their coal use and make the switch to thorium reactors.


I still vote for building a huge fan and blowing their waste back on them. They made it, let them keep it.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was just near the mall and a HUGE cloud of dust just came out of nowhere and swept through the entire street. And then a few minutes later dissipated. It was seriously weird.

Also, the air pollution has increased, I am pretty sure based on my own experience over the last two years. I went hiking last weekend and once I got up into the hills you could see it in a huge, glimmering, awful cloud over the city. It's horrific. I leave next spring and I could not be more relieved from a medical standpoint.

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The air pollution is worsening here, I'm afraid. I have noticed a difference between when I first got here and now. It's even more frequent and hazy (I can always tell just how bad it is by how visible the hills here are both up close and in the distance).

China recently admitted its "progress at all costs" initiative needs to be revamped due to enormouse environmental pollution (the worst in human history, fyi) so hopefully it will issue laws to reduce the pollutants but honestly I am so paranoid now. I am taking a bunch of supplements and have found a bronchial/lung herbal remedy that helps cleanse me out somewhat, but until I get back to America I'm still going to worry about a relapse.
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Old fat expat



Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember it being like this before the economic downturn. Seems like there was a 3-4 year break from burning eyes. It was especially nice during the Olympics. Now, yuk!
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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toxic Haze? Isn't that a Jimi Hendrix Chinese tribute band?
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't trust air that you can't see.
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byrddogs



Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got me a nice little respiratory infection this week. It's probably no coincidence since the air in Shanghai has been particularly terrible lately.
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mayorhaggar



Joined: 01 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, it's shockingly smoggy here. I'm in a small country town, usually it's a bit hazy if it hasn't rained in a while. Yesterday was pretty murky, today it's noon and you can't see a block away. I really hope it's not going to be like this all winter. My throat feels like crap.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah it's terribly disgusting. and I heard/read it contains arsenic, cadmium, and lead. Pretty bad for you.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-25200461
BBC wrote:
The National Institute of Environmental Research says westerly winds are bearing a cloud laden with high levels of heavy metals such as arsenic and lead. They expect the whole country to be enveloped in what Choson Ilbo newspaper called the "new influx of toxic haze" that blanketed the western island of Baengnyeong at the weekend and went on to obscure the skyline of the capital Seoul.

Researcher Ahn Joon-young says cold weather has promoted a rise in coal-burning to heat homes in China, and expects the haze to become a more frequent problem for Korea. Warnings of the smog have sent sales of face masks soaring six-fold, along with detergents that claim to wash away bacteria and heavy metals.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooooo disgusting outside today. My nose was burning.
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mayorhaggar



Joined: 01 Jan 2013

PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overnight it got colder and the air is back to being normal. Thank god. Hopefully that scuzzy murk doesn't come back anytime soon.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where in Korea are you?

Where I am, things in the distance look blurry because of all the smog.

My throught feels sore too.

(I'm pretty sure the toxic haze remains, at least in some of Korea.)
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Visually I don't notice the haze, but physically my stuffed up throat tells me different. At first I thought it was just a seasonal cold, but that sand makes total sense. Every year at roughly the same time I get the same stuffy, phlegmy throat issue.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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China still has a high level of the "particulate matter (PM) 2.5," a nanoscale particulate matter that is 2.5 micrometers or less in diameter and largely made up of sulphate and nitrate particles.

The city and the surrounding areas experienced unprecedentedly thick layers of ultrafine pollutants on Thursday, prompting the Seoul Metropolitan Government to issue its first-ever advisory as its PM-2.5 level reached 93 micrograms per cubic meter.

It is far higher than the 85 micrograms per cubic meter threshold for issuing the advisory, according to the city.

High-density fine dust was created in Shanghai and Qingdao of China, and moved westward toward the Korean Peninsula. Thick smog and still air in the country combined with the dust to worsen the situation, the city said.

This is what worries me:
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People further from the source of the dust are more often exposed to nearly invisible, fine dust particles that they can unknowingly inhale deep into their lungs, as coarse dust is too big to be deeply inhaled.[1] After inhalation, it can cause long term scarring of lung tissue as well as induce cancer and lung disease.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Dust
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