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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:45 pm    Post subject: Korean Funerals Reply with quote

How many out there have had this lovely experience. While a funeral in any culture is never pleasent
in Korea it's quite brutal. They usually last two to three days in that time no one is permitted to wash.

It's a massive outpouring of emotion with lots of Igosssss.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say I respect Korean funerals far more than weddings. You can't go wrong with nonstop free food and liquor. Also, tradition has been preserved much more than weddings, which seem like they were crafted around a few snapshots from a western wedding with no underlying idea of the traditions involved or traditions of their own.
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Old fat expat



Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my worst Korean experiences.

A serious WTF moment.

Apparantly based on the idea that those still living are at fault somehow for the persons death - i.e. didn't do enough to stop the death.

Comfort for the grieving ... NOT. Guilt and punishment is the order of the day(s).

If you are close family for the deceased, it is a grinding, sleep deprived hell.

If you are a casual drop in-I suppose its free beer and food.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You forgot about all the money they get.

Although I really hate the anniversary funerals they have every resultant year. One guy my wife went to school with killed his girlfriend and then killed himself, and they still have funerals for the guy every year.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, both weddings and funerals in this country are a joke.

I mean.. where is the solemnity??? While the family of the dead are grieving, the friends and extended relatives go to a room nearby, drink soju, eat whatever and actually HAVE FUN???
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michaelambling



Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of you people should have ever got a passport.
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Mr Poe



Joined: 08 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"None of you people should have ever got a passport."
Fantastic! Exactly what i was thinking.
I've been to many weddings and two funerals, found both to be interestingly different from the ones i've been to at home.
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Panda



Joined: 25 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
In my opinion, both weddings and funerals in this country are a joke.

I mean.. where is the solemnity??? While the family of the dead are grieving, the friends and extended relatives go to a room nearby, drink soju, eat whatever and actually HAVE FUN???



Dont judge before you ... Wink

In some countries, women have to cry when they get married....bitterly.....as if they are so unwilling to leave their parents.

On the contrary, in some East Asian countries, funerals, especially for old people are not supposed to be sad at all...When my grandama died, according to the tradition, my parents invited 2 bands (for opera and pop music each) and a puppet troupe, we also hosted a huge banquet with hundreds of people showed up. After that, everybody told me my family got a great funeral and my grandma gained lots of face and she would be happy in another world. Shocked

I hate people spending huge money on either funerals or weddings, but some people like it, you just gotta let it be.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it depends on the circumstances and age of the deceased.

if it was a long and fruitful and happy life, I think by all means, what should be celebrated, yes celebrated is that life and how that person made others lives" more fulfilling, interesting, funny or whatever.

I also think that even if the circumstances are 'tragic', if the deceased had left opinions/instructions to friends about how they'd want their death to be remembered... then the deceased's wishes should be respected.

I've only been here about 8 months, but I have LONG ago stopped caring about what Koreans think and about their "culture", because to me it's Martian and will always be Martian in many respects.

that said, if invited or having to be there at a "Korean cultural" event, I'll keep my head down, smile and or nod or bow when necessary and count the minutes till I can get the F out of there and back to the comparative "reality" in the solitude of my appt.


I think in my case, I'll make sure anyone that shows up when I croak, tries to have a good time and parties like it's 1999. It's MY death (just like it was MY life) and it plays out the way "I" want it to, not others, not the society around me and not even my family (which learned very early on I will live MY life exactly how I please, regardless of whether they like it or approve of it, or not).
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much of this shit is pointless ceremony, co opted for money and ego (especially weddings)
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
So much of this shit is pointless ceremony, co opted for money and ego (especially weddings)


yeah, but the weddings aren't bad... they're usually over in less than 2 hours, OR less..

and there's almost none of that cheesy live band or bad DJ music going on, where you're supposed to "party/dance" on the dance floor with your suit on and grandma watching.

then you see the groom taking off that thing up her thigh for the hundredth time and then of course, she throws that bouquet of flowers or whatever behind her as all the women scratch like feral cats to claw their way to the bouquet.

it's just SO lame.

I typically detest US style weddings, so for now, I'm giving it to the Koreans on style points and amount of "pain" inflicted.

have yet to go to a funeral.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

God, I remember why I've almost stopped posting on Dave's - you just can't post your OWN opinion without being jumped on.. by people who virtually know nothing about your background.

Panda, I am guessing you're Chinese. Well, as am I.

When my great-grandma died, she was 104. We used red lanterns instead of blue.. we burned red candles instead of..uh.. whatever I can't remember. We had a red flower on our head instead of the usual white one.

We were told we had to be happy because she was over 100 and lived a full life. BUT the whole ceremony was still digified, people were not crying, but they didn't come to party.

In Korea, people who go to the funeral, to me, seem like they go there to party. And that's just disrespectful.

But whatever floats their boat, it's their culture. Just don't ask me to go another Korean funeral cos I won't go.
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Faunaki



Joined: 15 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not disrespectful for people to party at a funeral. It all depends on what the deceased wanted. A good friend of mine passed in Canada and his parents refused to have a sad affair of a funeral. Rather they threw a party where people drank and cried and laughed.

Personally, I like Korean funerals. Canadian funerals are lame. They are like going to church on a regular day but everyone is wearing black and there's a dead body in the room. Sucks.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Korean funerals are like Irish wakes?
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
So Korean funerals are like Irish wakes?


Bingo, although held in a special area somewhere in a hospital.
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