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Kiddirts



Joined: 25 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:36 pm    Post subject: Korean Punctuality Reply with quote

When are Koreans punctual? When it helps them out. Having just got back to Korea I'm trying to set myself up again going through schools and recruiters. In my first 2 weeks. I've been totally stood up 5 times and recruiters, teachers, and hagwon owners have been religiously late to the tune of about 14 times as I hang outside a subway exit in the bitter cold. The ONLY two times they were on time to meet me was when they NEEDED me as I was filling in as a temp. The funniest thing of all is they always say on the phone, please, please...don't be late. They always say this. Last night I had to meet a recruiter and I had to walk half a mile almost. They were ten minutes late and I walked off to McDonalds to get a coffee and walk home...then they called 20 minutes later..."Hey sorry, where are you?" "I went to Mcdonald's, sorry, it was too cold." click. Where I come from, if you keep someone waiting, it's a sign of total disrespect. I guess over here it's seen as being one-up on someone if you need to talk business and you keep your subject waiting in the cold for your sorry a$$...and I hear it all the time, "Don't be late" What a bunch of crap. Sorry, guess I'm just a little pissed...where am I now? A PC bong because some shady recruiter named Shin just stood me up. F that.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I have never been stood up, I have been waiting. I used to think showing up at 10mins before an appointment was the appropriate thing to do. Now I show up around 5mins after the appt. time. So instead of waiting 25mins, I usually now wait 5-10mins.
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sistersarah



Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Location: hiding out

PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they're always, always late. the good thing is, if you're ever late, they don't seem to mind. i showed up half an hour late for an interview once and they didn't care -- got the job. now if that was at home.....
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a bit of a power thing too. The older or higher ranked, can be late, but those lower, or looking for a favor shouldn't be.
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mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The subject of this post is an oxymoron.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with weatherman.. my old boss thought he was the pinnacle of creation and was always 30 mins late for anything, you could set your watch by him. The average korean is about 15-20 mins late I find.. I don't think they see it as an offence, more as a social statement.. still d***ed annoying though....
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matko



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: in a world of hurt!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to remember reading something somewhere, I think it was that Ugly American, Ugly Korean book, not sure.

If I remember correctly, I think it is considered rude to be on time in Korea. for example, showing up to someones home on time does not give the host enough time to prepare. If the host is running late, it would be embarrassing to your host.

Maybe this spills over into other aspects of Korean life as well.

Anyway, I am notoriously early and HATE CHRONICALLY late people.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highest on the totem pole arrives lastest.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
While I have never been stood up, I have been waiting. I used to think showing up at 10mins before an appointment was the appropriate thing to do. Now I show up around 5mins after the appt. time. So instead of waiting 25mins, I usually now wait 5-10mins.


Back home my buddies used to hate it b/c I am always late. Over here it works out perfectly. I am either on time, 2 mins early or 2 mins late. Works for me.

Just to be on the safe side, I call the person first or send a text message. Just to see if they will be arriving on time.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
While I have never been stood up, I have been waiting. I used to think showing up at 10mins before an appointment was the appropriate thing to do. Now I show up around 5mins after the appt. time. So instead of waiting 25mins, I usually now wait 5-10mins.




I do the same thing, except I only wait 5-10 minutes. Then I leave. If they can't be bothered showing up at a pre-arranged time, I can't be bothered waiting. The one exception to this would be a job interview and not by much. The exception would be that I would make my excuses to the secretary before leaving.
Unless they call my number and let me know that they are going to be late, then I will wait longer.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Mr. Pink wrote:
While I have never been stood up, I have been waiting. I used to think showing up at 10mins before an appointment was the appropriate thing to do. Now I show up around 5mins after the appt. time. So instead of waiting 25mins, I usually now wait 5-10mins.




I do the same thing, except I only wait 5-10 minutes. Then I leave. If they can't be bothered showing up at a pre-arranged time, I can't be bothered waiting. The one exception to this would be a job interview and not by much. The exception would be that I would make my excuses to the secretary before leaving.
Unless they call my number and let me know that they are going to be late, then I will wait longer.


Funny is when I was dating my wife, she used to be late all the time. I figured screw waiting, so I would be late too. Now I am still late when meeting her at pre-arranged times and she is the one giving me crap Shocked

For business or professional appointments I am always on time, and have found most of the time the other party is too.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I waited an hour in the hot sun to meet my wife for our first date.

Got as nasty sunburn on my neck, but overall, I feel it was worth it.

Sparkles*_*
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Ody



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mishlert wrote:
The subject of this post is an oxymoron.


my thoughts exactly!
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! My girl is ALWAYS late. 30 minutes usually. So last time I went 30 minutes late and she had gotten there on time. Always works that way.
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ryleeys



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Columbia, MD

PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's because Koreans are reading our minds and thinking of the best ways to screw with us...
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