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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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 Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:49 am Post subject: English Teachers� Pay Heading Up |
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Have you seen your salary increase at all since last year? If not, you should try to get a better salary. Anyhow, who in their right mind would get a 1.8 million KRW per month teaching job? Certainly not me.
http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/02/123_38848.html
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English Teachers� Pay Heading Up
By Jane Han
Staff Reporter
Jeon Kyung-shik, headmaster of an Ansan-based ``hagwon,'' recently bought two sets of flat-screen televisions to install in the newly vacated studios he plans to offer to his incoming foreign employees. That plus a 10 percent pay raise might help quickly fill the teaching positions, Jeon hopes.
He said a few applicants from the U.S. and Canada showed interest, but his hagwon's secluded location, furnished but tiny living suite, 1.8 million-won-a-month ($1,300) salary and a 35-hour work week weren't enough to cut the deal.
``Frankly speaking, even if I were a native English job seeker, I'd probably shoot for a better offer because hagwon are starting to pitch better compensation packages,'' said Jeon, who runs a small-sized English language institute, which now employs three foreign teachers after two left last month. ``Demand seems to be outstripping supply.''
Lee Jae-hee, a senior recruiter at OK Recruiting, a Seoul-based English teacher placement agency, said hagwon are finding it tougher to attract well-qualified professionals, as the government is emerging as the preferred employer among native English teachers.
The Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education said last month that it would hire more foreign teachers so that all English classes offered in Seoul's public elementary, middle and high schools could be taught in English starting 2012.
Meanwhile, the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology said Sunday that it expects public schools to ramp up native English speaker recruitments by 20 percent in 2009, compared to last year.
``Given an option between hagwon and public schools, job seekers typically pick state-run schools,'' said Lee, who places teachers for dozens of private institutes every month.
Shorter work hours, longer vacation, better medical insurance coverage and overall easier working conditions are just some of the reasons, he said, adding that these factors force hagwon to come up with better offers.
Lee said a month's salary of 2 to 2.2 million won used to be the ``market standard,'' but now more employers are paying around 2.3 to 2.5 million won.
A recruiter at Park English, one of the largest English teacher placement agencies here, said the competition to secure teachers will likely continue as the pool of native English-speaking teachers shrinks against rising demand.
``The weak Korean won is a turn off for prospective teachers,'' said the agent, who didn't want to be named. She said the dismal job market in the U.S. ― the No. 1 preferred country of origin ― isn't helping to draw interest in teaching positions in Korea.
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:27 am Post subject: |
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That guy sounds clueless. Who wants a bigger TV? 95% of it or more is in Korean anyway.
and 95% of the teachers probably sign contracts without looking at the apartment first anyway!
(it's just pure coincidence that those percentages are the same - true story!)
Strangely they didn't mention that a LOT of hagwons like to cheat their teachers in a reason why more teachers don't choose them first.. I'm sure they did a lot of research for this |
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ppcg4
Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| I'd freakin love a bigger TV. I wouldn't take the pay cut though, that's for sure. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| The TV would be fun to smash after getting screwed over. Then dragging it over to the hagwon late at night and leaving at their front door. |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Countdown to Real Reality posting his stats AGAIN in 5. . . 4. . . 3. . . 2 . . . |
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rookieglobetrotter
Joined: 19 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:58 pm Post subject: Won |
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The 2.3-2.5 Mill KRW stats are prob for experienced teachers or Hagwons.
For the PS jobs for fresh out of school grads, 1.8-2.2 is still about the norm. And then after 2 years of teaching under your best from home or as a TEFLer thats usually when you get 2.3-2.5. That's from what I've heard from recruiters.
Or does anyone know how newbies get the 2.3-2.5 in PS without prev experience? |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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| madoka wrote: |
| Countdown to Real Reality posting his stats AGAIN in 5. . . 4. . . 3. . . 2 . . . |
Real Reality's post time
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:33 am Post subject: English Teachers' Pay Heading Up
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http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=146392
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:49 am Post subject: English Teachers� Pay Heading Up |
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Zulethe
Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| What's up with the dumb ass icon whistle. God, that thing gives me a head ache. What is it by the way...? A spoof on English teachers? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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This is odd. The last rumor on here was that salaries were headed down.
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She said the dismal job market in the U.S. ― the No. 1 preferred country of origin ― isn't helping to draw interest in teaching positions in Korea.
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And what's that all about? I thought Koreans were uniformly anti-American. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
This is odd. The last rumor on here was that salaries were headed down.
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She said the dismal job market in the U.S. ― the No. 1 preferred country of origin ― isn't helping to draw interest in teaching positions in Korea.
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And what's that all about? I thought Koreans were uniformly anti-American. |
They like them dollaz son. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| And what's that all about? I thought Koreans were uniformly anti-American. |
There was another poster, on another thread, who commented something about Koreans stopping at McDonalds before attending an anti-US protest, then getting coffee at Starbucks afterward. All while wearing NY Yankees baseball caps.
Whoever you are, I thought that summed it up nicely.
On topic: my first job in Korea was in 2005, and I got paid 1.8 million. I find it amazing that salaries for new teachers is still around that level. |
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Gotta love the delusional Mr. Jeon out there in the sticks with his hakwon. He'd shoot for more than 1.8 because other hakwons are 'starting to pitch' higher salaries'. What, was this written in 2000? Since when haven't hakwons been paying more than 1.8?
But he's going to rectify his situation with TVs? Not better places or employment conditions, but TVs?
Ok...good luck crapwon owners everywhere..... |
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Horangi Munshin
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Yep 2000 is about right!
My first contract paid 1.6M a month. The standard then was 1.5-1.6. by 2001 the standard was 1.8. Eight years ago! |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| PRagic wrote: |
Gotta love the delusional Mr. Jeon out there in the sticks with his hakwon. He'd shoot for more than 1.8 because other hakwons are 'starting to pitch' higher salaries'. What, was this written in 2000? Since when haven't hakwons been paying more than 1.8?
But he's going to rectify his situation with TVs? Not better places or employment conditions, but TVs?
Ok...good luck crapwon owners everywhere..... |
The Hogwan Association has taught him well.  |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| PRagic wrote: |
Gotta love the delusional Mr. Jeon out there in the sticks with his hakwon. He'd shoot for more than 1.8 because other hakwons are 'starting to pitch' higher salaries'. What, was this written in 2000? Since when haven't hakwons been paying more than 1.8?
But he's going to rectify his situation with TVs? Not better places or employment conditions, but TVs?
Ok...good luck crapwon owners everywhere..... |
There's no evidence, for or against, that the employment conditions at this hagwon aren't already good. I'm not assuming they are, and I don't think it's fair to assume they aren't. |
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