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dereklee003
Joined: 03 Jan 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:25 am Post subject: First taste of hagwon shadiness... |
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I am so frustrated! I had a good offer from a school, and turned it down because I got what i thought was a better offer from another school. They liked me, offered me the job, and then the recruiter emails me and says they now want to change the job to 6 days a week for 3.0 mil
I emailed the recruiter back and said i will not work 6 days a week...im not sure if its a deal breaker, but i would still work for them if it was mon-fri only....do u think they will still offer me the job at the original hours?? Other wise i am back to square one in finding a job.... |
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John_ESL_White
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:27 am Post subject: |
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ball is in your court. |
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Mdvl_lady50
Joined: 22 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: |
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The ball is definitely in your court. If you're at all qualified, which am sure you are, you will get hired. I ended up getting three offers. Some were better than others. I finished up the process (though not there yet), accepting the best deal. No weekends or split shifts, and I do teach younger children. Having raised two daughters, teens in my opinion are a nightmare -- especially girls. But then that's just me. I wanted to work in a coastal area, but ended up settling for a higher paying job on the outskirts of Seoul. School also negotiated with me for better digs, loft bedroom and fully outfitted kitchen. As I've said in a previous post, "We'll see." But you definitely have the option of getting what you want within reason. |
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Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Location: Land of Morning Clam
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Mdvl_lady50 wrote: |
The ball is definitely in your court. If you're at all qualified, which am sure you are, you will get hired. I ended up getting three offers. Some were better than others. I finished up the process (though not there yet), accepting the best deal. No weekends or split shifts, and I do teach younger children. Having raised two daughters, teens in my opinion are a nightmare -- especially girls. But then that's just me. I wanted to work in a coastal area, but ended up settling for a higher paying job on the outskirts of Seoul. |
Haha, settling for close to Seoul.
They might say there is no problem with you only working 5 days a week, but keep looking for someone else who will take it. You should keep looking too. |
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sharkey

Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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OP , great call on declining the 6 day work week, good on ya m8.. stay strong in there .. good luck |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Why would anyone want a hogwan job. I just finished 32 days of holidays at my public school and also found out that we get the 19th until the second off. |
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maingman
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Location: left Korea
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: . |
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D.D. wrote :
I just finished 32 days of holidays at my public school and also..
wooo |
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vk33

Joined: 26 Feb 2008
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:30 am Post subject: |
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D.D. wrote: |
Why would anyone want a hogwan job. I just finished 32 days of holidays at my public school and also found out that we get the 19th until the second off. |
why would anyone want a public school job?
the pay sucks.
the pay levels suck.
your school usually sucks.
your boss usually sucks.
unless your school is in a blinging hood, your kids are kinda dumb when it comes to speaking Englisheeeeeeee.
youre lucky to have other teachers to talk with
and ... 32 days off? feh! |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:47 am Post subject: Re: . |
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maingman wrote: |
D.D. wrote :
I just finished 32 days of holidays at my public school and also..
wooo |
yeah and you'll need every blessed minute of it to deal with the racket of 35+ uninterested in learning E students make  |
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Cracker006

Joined: 11 Feb 2008
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="vk33"]
D.D. wrote: |
why would anyone want a public school job?
the pay sucks.
the pay levels suck. |
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your school usually sucks. |
Nah... my school has been super nice to me, and I'm 10 months in to it. I
've never been jerked around. I'm paid on time. I only actually work about 14 hours a week (which sometimes drives me nuts because I've gotta sit here). The hakwon treated me like crap when I got near the end of my contract, and the government job was worse.
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your boss usually sucks. |
My boss is nice. Its the vice-boss who is a behotch
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unless your school is in a blinging hood, your kids are kinda dumb when it comes to speaking Englisheeeeeeee. |
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youre lucky to have other teachers to talk with
and ... 32 days off? feh! |
There are 10 other teachers in my neighborhood... and there's always Dave's  |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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It comes down to pay and co-teacher relationships. At a hagwon, they will try to get you to teach your class at the same time your co-teacher teaches another class. At a public school, you work with more students but you can actually co-teach (note: I stated "can", not "do").
I have never had to question the public school about pay or when I will get paid. Hagwons, even the nice ones try to negotiate different payment arrangements. It's not so much they won't pay you, but you are always uneasy come pay day. You don't know what to expect, but you do with a public school. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:47 am Post subject: |
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lifeinkorea wrote: |
It comes down to pay and co-teacher relationships. At a hagwon, they will try to get you to teach your class at the same time your co-teacher teaches another class. At a public school, you work with more students but you can actually co-teach (note: I stated "can", not "do").
I have never had to question the public school about pay or when I will get paid. Hagwons, even the nice ones try to negotiate different payment arrangements. It's not so much they won't pay you, but you are always uneasy come pay day. You don't know what to expect, but you do with a public school. |
I have been paid late at a public school, several times. |
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maingman
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Location: left Korea
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:06 am Post subject: . |
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cdninkorea
that's cra* , sorry to hear |
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