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Teach me how to ride a motorcycle

 
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togoastray



Joined: 27 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Teach me how to ride a motorcycle Reply with quote

Hi,

I've driven scooters in Seoul for years, now I'm thinking about buying a small motorcycle, but have never driven one. I'm looking for someone who is willing to spend an hour or two showing me the basics (dinner/lunch on me). I live near Sinchon and would prefer to meet close to there. I'm looking to buy something similar to the Daelim Daystar 125, so someone with a similar cruiser style bike would be ideal. If you have time and are willing, shoot me an e-mail at [email protected].

Thanks
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, boy. You are setting yourself up for a world of pain.

I have friends in the state who learned from friends. Sure, they got the hang of it. At least until they needed to use an evasive or defensive technique their friends didn't teach them. And this was in small to medium sized towns. Add Korean and Seoul traffic, pedestrians and potholes to the mix. Make sure you have extra insurance as NHIC doesn't cover motorcycle accident injuries.


It takes longer than a couple hours to properly learn how to ride a motorcycle. And who do you think is willing to let you learn on their precious baby? There's a good chance you'll drop it, especially if they are teaching you safety techniques you need to learn.


The problem is that in Korea, there is no good school for learning MC riding, even in the Korean language. In the USA, you can find weekend long courses that use supplied bikes and the courses are approved by the Motorcycle Safety Foundation. They are taught by experts and teach you everything you need to save your skin.


Of all my friends who wrecked in the USA, they were either doing stunts, or were casual riders who never took a true safety class.
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a load of BS..

I didn't ride bikes for 8 years untill I came to Korea.. 4 Years now that I;ve been driving with out a prob;
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temporary wrote:
What a load of BS..

I didn't ride bikes for 8 years untill I came to Korea.. 4 Years now that I;ve been driving with out a prob;


You should look up some stats and talk to more veteran riders if you think it's BS. And count your blessings.
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The Hammer



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always remember... Safety first!

Last edited by The Hammer on Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:09 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I approve of Bibbity's style of learning from an expert to ensure maximum safety, it's not that hard to teach yourself, especially if you've been driving scooters for years. Practice, practice, practice and avoid heavy traffic until you feel secure enough to maneuver in it.

The biggest difference you're going to find between your scooter and an actual bike is how it handles. My Magma turns like a pregnant cow compared to the 90cc scooter I was riding before. Get out there, start riding and take it slow. On a motorcycle, unless you hit a pedestrian, you're likely to get the worst in any accident.
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MattAwesome



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took the official MSf class and it was great. since you are a seasoned scooter person, it wont be much different. but instead of using the handle bars to turn the bike you will be pushing on them and leaning the bike to turn it. unfortunately you cannot learn how to ride a motorcycle without one. find a friend and he will teach you the basics. then,build some kind of obstacle course. and learn how to brake. 90% of motorcycle braking is done with the rear brake. also learn fast stopping and basic maneuvering. and dont think anybody will ever see you. if you drive like everyone thinks you are invisible you will be a lot safer.
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togoastray



Joined: 27 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies
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The problem is that in Korea, there is no good school for learning MC riding, even in the Korean language.


Exactly my problem. I really want a motorcycle for longer road trips around Korea. As its time for me to buy a new motorcycle/scooter I was hoping to get a small 125 to learn on, and then move up. Your advise on professional training especially for safety techniques is well taken, I just wish there was another solution besides going back to the States to learn.

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. unfortunately you cannot learn how to ride a motorcycle without one. find a friend and he will teach you the basics.


Also my problem. All my friends have scooters. I was hoping to find someone who could show me enough that I could at least drive the bike home.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The biggest thing you don't get when learning from friends or by yourself is the combination of the physics of how a bike handles and the training to teach you tactics that feel dangerous or unnatural, but can save your life in an instant.
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the boy next door



Joined: 08 Jun 2008
Location: next door

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ride high, baby. Wink
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was self taught. They showed me how to start a bike. If you get a friend to teach you how to ride its not bad if ofcourse your friend is good. Been riding bikes since I was 14.. Its more then half my life. 4 Accidents. 1 Serious motocross accident, 3 in korea I was hit by idiots that didn't look where they were going or they had their head lights off. I wasn't going very fast less then 10kilometers, I know how to bail plus I wear protective gear all the time.

I was hit by cars 4 times in Korea while being a pedestrian. Walking is more dangerous then riding a motorcycle in this country.
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MikeC101



Joined: 22 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattAwesome wrote:
90% of motorcycle braking is done with the rear brake.



What?? Is this a typo?

The majority of braking on a motorcycle is with your front brake, as it has more stopping power. Maybe on a heavy cruiser you can get a bit more stopping power from the back brake, but certainly not more than the front brake. In fact I'd reckon the front brake supplies more than 70 per cent of your stopping power. Front brake for stopping, rear brake for slowing, especially when you need to feather it to slow a little in situations where using the front would cause you to lose the front end.
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