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Please Help: Epik does not want to accept DUI offence.
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SAbabe



Joined: 05 Jul 2008
Location: South Africa

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:14 am    Post subject: Please Help: Epik does not want to accept DUI offence. Reply with quote

I am sitting here and I feel like crying. We've applied to Epik last year, had the interview and got all the documents ready. We've just received a call from our agent, saying that from Jan 2009 Epik does not accept any applications if you have an DUI on your record.

My boyfriend has an DUI record from 15 years back, when he was a student. He only received a fine, but it reflects on his Criminal record check. We confirmed with our agent last year if this would be problem, he contacted Epik and they said it was fine. Now they come with this new rules. They haven't even sent our documents to immigration.

Please give us some advice. What should we do. We both resigned from our jobs, sold our cars..... and now this.
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oldtactics



Joined: 18 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPIK isn't to blame for this - they're rejecting you because immigration won't give you a visa if you have a criminal record. Your boyfriend's options are to either apply to get the charge wiped from the record or look for employment in countries that don't request a CRC.

There might be a way to apply for a CRC from a different city/district and avoid the DUI showing up, but it depends on where he's from and where he ordered the check from.
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Gnawbert



Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Location: The Internet

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're still in the United States, you can simply get a criminal check from another state and if there's no record of problems, you'll get a clear check. Procedures vary of course, but contact another state if you need.

Incidentally, the only way I discovered this massive loophole was when I was walking my girlfriend through the process a year ago, since she resided in a different state for 6 months and I wanted to make sure the CRC would be accepted by Kimmigration.
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the oak llama



Joined: 05 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: , Reply with quote

[email protected]

[email protected]

[email protected]

English Program in Korea (EPIK)
Office no. 301
National Institute for International Education (NIIED)
43 Ihwajang-gil, Jongno-gu
Seoul 110-810 KOREA
tel: (+82) 2-3668-1400
fax: (+82) 2-765-9947
http://www.epik.go.kr
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sobriquet



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Location: Nakatomi Plaza

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He broke the law

He has a criminal record.

Simple as that. He can't work here.

I hate drink drivers. Scum of the earth.
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pocariboy73



Joined: 23 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sobriquet wrote:
He broke the law

He has a criminal record.

Simple as that. He can't work here.

I hate drink drivers. Scum of the earth.


...and you're a real class act Rolling Eyes
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Biblethumper



Joined: 15 Dec 2007
Location: Busan, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all make mistakes. We all stumble and fall to temptation. Unfortunately, we also all ahve to learn to live with the consequences. I myself have been dogged by youthful indiscretions for my entire career in Korea. Luckily for me, I had no criminal charges laid, but dealing with persistent rumours and stories can be equally damaging.

Nonetheless, I have learned that we must all deal with the hand we have dealt ourselves.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: Please Help: Epik does not want to accept DUI offence. Reply with quote

SAbabe wrote:
I am sitting here and I feel like crying. We've applied to Epik last year, had the interview and got all the documents ready. We've just received a call from our agent, saying that from Jan 2009 Epik does not accept any applications if you have an DUI on your record.

My boyfriend has an DUI record from 15 years back, when he was a student. He only received a fine, but it reflects on his Criminal record check. We confirmed with our agent last year if this would be problem, he contacted Epik and they said it was fine. Now they come with this new rules. They haven't even sent our documents to immigration.

Please give us some advice. What should we do. We both resigned from our jobs, sold our cars..... and now this.


while I'm not exactly sympathetic to drunk drivers either, the fact you are from S.A. gives you my sympathy vote - I know it's tough there, I've been.

if his offense is from 15 years back - that's before the govt changed hands - have you tried to hire a lawyer and get the record expunged? I'm actually surprised it would still be there -

at any rate, I'm sure if you find the right person and pay the right price, you can get the record cleaned up properly.

then just go through another recruiter - not a problem, they're a dime a dozen - you'll find another one - or just go to Seoul PS or GEPIK instead

good luck, don't despair - look how far your country has come - it's just having growing pains right now. Surprised
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cedarseoul



Joined: 16 Feb 2008
Location: nowon-gu

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your heart is set on EPIK but you need the money soon, I'd follow the suggestions of others on this thread and then find a short-term contract with a hagwon (maybe a summer program?) that will get you in-country and working prior to the next round of hiring.
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agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly what age was he when he received his DUI?
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sobriquet



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Location: Nakatomi Plaza

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agoodmouse wrote:
Exactly what age was he when he received his DUI?


I don't think it matters.

Don't know about the rest of the world but DUI's are serious in the UK.
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megandadam



Joined: 28 Dec 2008
Location: toronto, canada

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dui is different from DWI

maybe he smoked a little J and drove. the point is this person is asking for advice on what should be a helpful forum and gets your unhelpful answer.

15 years ago, who knows it could have been from anything. point is, follow their advice and get the check in a different locale or from the fbi.

and if it was driving while drinking - wake the F up and never do it again!

m&a
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sobriquet



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Please Help: Epik does not want to accept DUI offence. Reply with quote

oskinny1 wrote:
moosehead wrote:


while I'm not exactly sympathetic to drunk drivers either, the fact you are from S.A. gives you my sympathy vote - I know it's tough there, I've been.

if his offense is from 15 years back - that's before the govt changed hands - have you tried to hire a lawyer and get the record expunged? I'm actually surprised it would still be there -

at any rate, I'm sure if you find the right person and pay the right price, you can get the record cleaned up properly.

then just go through another recruiter - not a problem, they're a dime a dozen - you'll find another one - or just go to Seoul PS or GEPIK instead

good luck, don't despair - look how far your country has come - it's just having growing pains right now. Surprised


What kind of rationality is this? The gov't changed a bit and you think their country is somewhat crap so he should have his record cleared? Should they clear those of pedophiles too? It is ok to bribe someone to erase a past transgression?

You have got to be one of the biggest idiots on this board...that is quite an accomplishment!


Might as well just clear everybody's records and let the world be free.

Unless the person in the OP is mentally deficient in some way, then they knew they were breaking the law, got caught and as always warned at school by the friendly policeman and teachers. It will come back to bite you.
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subicslugger



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Odds are immigration will approve his visa, even with the DWI. This seems to be a policy that EPIK is implementing, not immigration.

If EPIK rejects you because of the DWI, find a different job elsewhere. Once everything is submitted to immigration, it all depends in the individual officer who processes the paperwork.

Plenty of people have received visas with DWI's and there are also quite a few that have been rejected, its a roll of the dice.
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