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Bucheonguy



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: My bad repuation Reply with quote

I have been tying for months to find a job for the end of my contract. I keep getting told the same thing, "the school contacted your current school and you got a bad reference!" What the hell! My school has treated me like shit from day one! I don't understand how these assholes can ruin my chances of getting a new job over nothing!

Does anyone know if there's anything I can do? I have about 3 weeks left on my contract and I'm going to have to leave the country soon. I have been applying for jobs since December! Anyway, they are totally ruining me so please, some advice.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't have possibly left my old school on worse terms and I got heaps of job offers. I also got two of my co-workers from that school, one English and one Korean, to write reference letters for me. Perhaps they helped.
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Bucheonguy



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My big problem seems to be that my vice principal is the head of the gyeonggi-do education friendship program or something like that. So she's got a lot of power I guess. I've got reference letters from my teachers and people supporting me but no one is listening. It's been months.
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Bucheonguy



Joined: 23 Oct 2008
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My big problem seems to be that my vice principal is the head of the gyeonggi-do education friendship program or something like that. So she's got a lot of power I guess. I've got reference letters from my teachers and people supporting me but no one is listening. It's been months.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you willing to work outside the Gyeongi-do PS system, then?
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this for real? All you need is a certificate of employment from your employer, which they are legally obliged to give at the end of your contract.

You leave the country, wait for the visa to expire and get a new job through a recruiter or GEPIK itself.

Problem solved. Laughing
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she has as much clout as you say then consider working away from Gyeonggi. Find someone at the school who would vouch for you and list them as your co-teacher/handler.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't this a load of nonsense? Does your VP check every application coming into GEPIK?

Contact Dain Bae and get a job through her or a recruiter.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our fellow poster is looking for a job after his current contract ends, but whenever he contacts a recruiter for a new job, they tell him his current school gave him a bad reference.

The OP feels he has been slandered so badly, it seems to be almost impossible to find a new job.

What is going on here? I advise the OP to contact GEPIK direct or as many recruiters as he can. He should also explain the situation to them all.

This is a disturbing thread. Is it really possible to be blacklisted with GEPIK, on the basis of the word of a Korean VP?

If this is true, I may be in trouble, if I look for a new school. Laughing
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take your VP's number of your CV. See if you can use a co-teacher, someone who you got on well with and knows you need their help. Buy them dinner or something. If you can't do this, use a Korean friend to blag for you.

What your VP is doing could be against Korean labor and defamation laws if they are saying negative things about you, especially if they cost you employment.

You could also get a Korean friend to call your VP pretending to be future employer. Ask what kind of an employee you were and if they should employ you, then cunningly ask them what the date is at the end of the conversation Wink Oh, and I'm sure we'd all be interested on what they say.

Once you get your new job, then decide if you want to pursue legal action. Right now keep your efforts focused on securing new employment.
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Once you get your new job, then decide if you want to pursue legal action


I can see the headline now:
"Native English teacher sues beloved vice-principal because she warned future employers about his perverted ways."
Actually, that's too long.
"Pervert English Teachers sues beloved vice-principal"


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All you need is a certificate of employment from your employer, which they are legally obliged to give at the end of your contract.


Yes, but when future employers see cert of employment, they think...ah isn't Mrs Kim the VP of that school, let me give her a call and see what she says about my future English Monkey. Badaboom Badabam.

OP. you need to find work outside of GEPIK, or leave that school off your CV. I left a Hagwon mid-contract, and all I said to future employers was, "I worked at a hagwon for 6months, I left because it wasn't working and I don't want to them to be contacted as we parted on bad terms." Sure, doesn't make me look good, but no reference is better than a bad one. (Heck, my PS is actually bumping me up to level 1 in the middle of my second contract thanks to the 6months worked at the hagwon...so the experience is not necessarily lost).

Considering that there are an abundance of jobs available, it is surprising to find so many teachers being rejected from GEPIK, there was another thread about a teacher with 4 years experience who got the "thanks but no thanks" from GEPIK. My 2c on this issue is that PSs are wising up to "problem teachers" (No offense OP, but based on your previous posts describing your situation at your school, I wouldn't be in a rush to hire you.) and have decided they are more hassle than they are worth..thanks to programs such as TALK etc, a lot of pressure has been taking off them to fill spots and thus they can be more selective.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: My bad repuation Reply with quote

Bucheonguy wrote:
I have been tying for months to find a job for the end of my contract. I keep getting told the same thing, "the school contacted your current school and you got a bad reference!" What the hell! My school has treated me like shit from day one! I don't understand how these assholes can ruin my chances of getting a new job over nothing!

Does anyone know if there's anything I can do? I have about 3 weeks left on my contract and I'm going to have to leave the country soon. I have been applying for jobs since December! Anyway, they are totally ruining me so please, some advice.


I know several people in your boat unfortuantely.

Koreans will believe a Korean over a foreigner any day of the week.

You have to keep looking. It definitely won't be easy.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If GEPIK is really this naff, I'll stay put, unless I can find another school.
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