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Viaje
Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Location: Indebted, USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: Do teachers tend to be extroverts, socially inclined people? |
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I consider myself more introverted than extroverted, but some mix of the two. I am not comfortable in some social situations, especiallly if its a lot of people that I have nothing in common with and something is expected of me which I don't like doing. I'm wondering how many of you in Korea stick more to yourselves, like you do your work and then are home or out touring alone? If that's not you do you notice that some teachers are like that? Part of my curiosity is wondering what social life I will have there and how easy it is to find things in common with people. I am not going to be hanging out in bars or drinking, so I know that leaves out one main connection with many. Do those who feel a little shy in general or are introverts find it even harder to be in a foreign country, or iin some ways is that more pleasing because its easier to just do your own thing? |
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Jeff's Cigarettes

Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Please explain "touring"? |
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Kaypea
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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If you are teaching at a school with a lot of foreign teachers, you'll probably go out to the movies or shopping sometimes. It won't all be going to the bar. Maybe you could check out Adventure Korea, and go along on the outings. Just be yourself I think quiet people fit in well here. |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Chilgok, Korea
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:51 am Post subject: Re: Do teachers tend to be extroverts, socially inclined peo |
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Viaje wrote: |
I'm wondering how many of you in Korea stick more to yourselves, like you do your work and then are home or out touring alone? |
I find that the most outgoing and friendly people are USFK. Case in point, I was in Daegu last weekend and I came out from under the street to find this white guy standing there smoking. So I was like 'hay man, you know any Mexican places?' He says "Not here." And we got to chatting. Talked about the previous night, all the stuff that's going on, I said "Well, I know a place with good breakfast" and he goes "Yeah, let's go get something to eat." So we had breakfast/lunch, chatted about bullshit, I was headed to Kyobo to buy books, so I left him to head back to post on his own.
In Kyobo, I ran into a couple of English teachers. I picked up a copy of LOST Season 4. I said to one of them, "Hay man, do you know what season LOST is in right now?" "Sorry, I don't know." "Oh, you've been in country for too long? I can't even get this on SkyLife. I don't know what's going on back home on the TV." (you know, trying to start a conversation)
I got "Sorry, man, I got no idea." And then he went to go look at some other shit.
One was a soldier, FOB, met me on the street, nothing in common, and we had lunch. One was an English teacher, browsing the TV section next to me, and gave me the cold shoulder.
My impression? English teachers are dicks. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Jeff's Cigarettes wrote: |
Please explain "touring"? |
I suspect that the word touring for the OP has to do with going places by himself. |
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Horangi Munshin

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: Busan
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:48 am Post subject: Re: Do teachers tend to be extroverts, socially inclined peo |
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Straphanger wrote: |
Viaje wrote: |
I'm wondering how many of you in Korea stick more to yourselves, like you do your work and then are home or out touring alone? |
I find that the most outgoing and friendly people are USFK. Case in point, I was in Daegu last weekend and I came out from under the street to find this white guy standing there smoking. So I was like 'hay man, you know any Mexican places?' He says "Not here." And we got to chatting. Talked about the previous night, all the stuff that's going on, I said "Well, I know a place with good breakfast" and he goes "Yeah, let's go get something to eat." So we had breakfast/lunch, chatted about bullshit, I was headed to Kyobo to buy books, so I left him to head back to post on his own.
In Kyobo, I ran into a couple of English teachers. I picked up a copy of LOST Season 4. I said to one of them, "Hay man, do you know what season LOST is in right now?" "Sorry, I don't know." "Oh, you've been in country for too long? I can't even get this on SkyLife. I don't know what's going on back home on the TV." (you know, trying to start a conversation)
I got "Sorry, man, I got no idea." And then he went to go look at some other shit.
One was a soldier, FOB, met me on the street, nothing in common, and we had lunch. One was an English teacher, browsing the TV section next to me, and gave me the cold shoulder.
My impression? English teachers are dicks. |
Or maybe he was just not that into you? |
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Hyeon Een

Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Do teachers tend to be extroverts, socially inclined peo |
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Straphanger wrote: |
I find that the most outgoing and friendly people are USFK... Talked about the previous night, all the stuff that's going on, I said "Well, I know a place with good breakfast" and he goes "Yeah, let's go get something to eat." So we had breakfast/lunch..
In Kyobo, I ran into a couple of English teachers. I picked up a copy of LOST Season 4. I said to one of them, "Hay man, do you know what season LOST is in right now?" "Sorry, I don't know." "Oh, you've been in country for too long? I can't even get this on SkyLife. I don't know what's going on back home on the TV." (you know, trying to start a conversation)
I got "Sorry, man, I got no idea." And then he went to go look at some other shit.
One was a soldier, FOB, met me on the street, nothing in common, and we had lunch. One was an English teacher, browsing the TV section next to me, and gave me the cold shoulder.
My impression? English teachers are dicks. |
My impressions:
(1) The first guy in Kyobo was FOB according to you. FOB people are more willing to talk to strangers because they don't know anyone and they've got nothing to lose. It doesn't matter whether they're soldiers, engineers or English teachers, FOBs are gonna be more open.
(2) Maybe the TV guy has no idea about Lost. I wasn't the guy, but I MIGHT browse that rack, and if you asked me those questions I honestly wouldn't have a better answer than your guy. Especially since I'm from a different country to you and the Season of "Lost" your country is showing is different to the season of "Lost" my country is showing. It's a serious "I don't know" situation. It's simply not a question I could answer outside of "I don't know" unless I got into a 5 minute long awkward weird explanation of why I didn't know.
(3) Your sample is shit. I've been out and run into English teachers and had good times, and run into army guys and had good times. To be honest I probably wouldn't rank one group as more likely to be fun or interesting than the other. I've met some real weird army guys and some real weird teachers. I've also met some fantastic people from both groups.
Obviously a random private is dumber than a random English teacher, but it's unfair to generalise broader than that. Sometimes the dumb private is more interesting to talk to than the slightly less dumb English teacher.
Anyway, that's all off topic.
OP: There are lots and lots and lots of introverts in Korea. You'll probably be fine. If you really worry about it, I'd suggest a small town with a close foreign community which will make you feel included. You might feel lost in a city with 'unlimited options'. In a small town with only 20 other foreigners you'll find the extroverts of the town make the new people welcome, introduce them and show them the ropes. In Seoul that doesn't happen unless you work in a hagwan of a certain size or get introduced to people. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Do teachers tend to be extroverts, socially inclined peo |
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Straphanger wrote: |
Viaje wrote: |
I'm wondering how many of you in Korea stick more to yourselves, like you do your work and then are home or out touring alone? |
I find that the most outgoing and friendly people are USFK. Case in point, I was in Daegu last weekend and I came out from under the street to find this white guy standing there smoking. So I was like 'hay man, you know any Mexican places?' He says "Not here." And we got to chatting. Talked about the previous night, all the stuff that's going on, I said "Well, I know a place with good breakfast" and he goes "Yeah, let's go get something to eat." So we had breakfast/lunch, chatted about bullshit, I was headed to Kyobo to buy books, so I left him to head back to post on his own.
In Kyobo, I ran into a couple of English teachers. I picked up a copy of LOST Season 4. I said to one of them, "Hay man, do you know what season LOST is in right now?" "Sorry, I don't know." "Oh, you've been in country for too long? I can't even get this on SkyLife. I don't know what's going on back home on the TV." (you know, trying to start a conversation)
I got "Sorry, man, I got no idea." And then he went to go look at some other shit.
One was a soldier, FOB, met me on the street, nothing in common, and we had lunch. One was an English teacher, browsing the TV section next to me, and gave me the cold shoulder.
My impression? English teachers are dicks. |
To be fair, your first few weeks, your pretty eager to talk to every foreigner you see...later you'll realize you don't really care to talk to every single newb on the street....no different from back home....I've literally got more foreign friends and aquaintances than I can count....unless your totally awesome(or an attractive women), I'm not dying for your company. |
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Panda

Joined: 25 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:17 am Post subject: |
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To me, introverted people could get considerable popularity among their friends...some seemingly outgoing persons are hated by everyone...so called the socially incapable.
It has a lot to do with your common sense.
Dont be a jerk, an asshole or a bitch, then everything will be fine.
You post this question so I guess you are not the very social type...Make one or two or a small group of good friends and keep them...I am sure you will have good time here.  |
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Straphanger
Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Location: Chilgok, Korea
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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I have many more examples of the dickery that I've experienced at the hands of English teachers, from Itaewon all the way down to Busan Station. On the flip side, my second week here I was invited to a house party off-post. If I want to grab a bite and actually speak English with someone for a change, I can head into the local soldier bar (the one that doesn't allow English teachers). Everywhere I go I just run into kids that are screwing around, trying to get some cash for college, etc. It's a good group. |
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Viaje
Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Location: Indebted, USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies. Touring, yes, just means going places alone, doing tourist-like things or just being out and about.
Yes, I'm not the very social type. I am more likely to have a few close friends than to go to parties or make lots of acquaintances, though that could be different in a foreign country if foreigners appreciate friends from America.
Someone suggested a small town may be better, and that I could get lost in Seoul, that is a very good point and one I will think about. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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In China other teachers were very friendly. Where I live in Korea they look down at their feet and don't even say hello.
I was on the bus asked one guy where he was from -he said east coast. so I said east coast of where. He said Canada. I was from ther so I said which city he then said Halifax. It was like pulling teeth talking to this guy.
Next week he passed me on the street with who must have been his mom and dad and not even a hello was given and we come from the same city.
I notice when I visit Busan taht the westerners are generally friendly there,but my town is full of introverts.
In China we would always have a dinner once a week where westerners could show up to if the wanted western people to talk to. We always had about 8 people show up and after a while Chinese people started coming and we had great parties.
Some peopel even ended up getting married from meeting there on western night.
Korea has been like walking through a desert. |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I hate talking with English teachers. It's always about some pseudo-intellectual bullshit that I could care less about. |
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Goku
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say it's about even...
No correlation between Engrish teachers and social disposition.
Although, this mixed bag of fruit we call Native English teachers in Korea, I do meet a higher percentage of socially retarded extroverts.
I think it has to do with either
a) cultural differences
b) Losers flocking to korea
They WANT to be part of the group but invetibaly same something socially/culurally unacceptable, or talk as akward as a penguin.
I do "love" however mixing with the bookworms. They always go on and on and on about the books they read as I'm supposed to be impressed.
Seems like the foreign teachers here seem asbsolutely bloody DAFT to the fact I couldn't care less what they read. Anyone else get this crap? Everytime I go to the bookstore someone feels the need to share the immaculate knowledge about the usual douchebaggery.
HI! MY WHITE FACE GIVES YOU THE GREEN LIGHT TO DUMP THE LIST OF EVERY BOOK YOU'VE EVER READ TO ME.
God, leave me in peace so I can check out girls while pretending to look for books.... |
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sarbonn

Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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I've rarely had success talking to English teachers, but every now and then I'll walk by some outdoor bar and a bunch of older expats are sitting there, and I'll ask them a question, and they'll all chime in and there will be a conversation for a few minutes with some pretty cool people. It's never a forced conversation or awkward. But then I'll be on the subway and say hi to someone who is obviously a westerner, and they'll just roll their eyes instead of respond. So I find myself less willing to even make eye contact with foreigners on the subway because for the most part, they're generally rude. |
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