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kpccrysler
Joined: 13 Jan 2009
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: In college, what should I be doing right now to prepare? |
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Hey guys,
I'm currently a Political Science major, Communications minor, and I'm interested in teaching in SK. What should I be doing right now to prepare myself for the job? Paperwork? Application? Meet with a Recruiter? Take some specific classes that will make me more competitive? How easy is it to get a job, is there a healthy demand for teachers?
Thanks for all the valuable information
KC |
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the ireland

Joined: 11 May 2008 Location: korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: In college, what should I be doing right now to prepare? |
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kpccrysler wrote: |
Hey guys,
I'm currently a Political Science major, Communications minor, and I'm interested in teaching in SK. What should I be doing right now to prepare myself for the job? Paperwork? Application? Meet with a Recruiter? Take some specific classes that will make me more competitive? How easy is it to get a job, is there a healthy demand for teachers?
Thanks for all the valuable information
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Try and look as wester as possible and make sure you know how to speak english! you don't really need much else, although if you plan on going to korea soon then getting a briminal background check can't hurt, and if you have your degree scroll you can start getting other bits of paperwork sorted, plus get your results transcripts all together and sealed and stamped from your uni.
However if you are only doing your bachelor degree and not your hons bachelor then you won't be able to do most of that |
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arizona
Joined: 05 Dec 2008
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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If you want longevity in ESL world with better hours and money, try to be a certified teacher with MA degree. Since you are not an education major, you need to go to your state's education department website and find out what you can do to be certified.Yes, you can teach English in any where in the world but competition comes easier to you if you are all of these. |
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ReeseDog

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: Classified
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I read on this forum where being a certified teacher with an education degree and perhaps an MA is advantageous, but other threads here say that you might make an extra 100K won or so and that it isn't worth it.
What say ye? |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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criminal background checks can't be older than 3 or 6 months (forget which), so check before you order that.
you might want to look into a cheap TESOL certificate, it will probably give you a pay increase in a public school or help your chances negotiating with a private school |
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Jessie41
Joined: 14 Dec 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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ReeseDog wrote: |
I read on this forum where being a certified teacher with an education degree and perhaps an MA is advantageous, but other threads here say that you might make an extra 100K won or so and that it isn't worth it.
What say ye? |
I agree with the last part. I have an MA and get the same extra 100k a month as someone with an online TEFL. But this may only apply to the public schools. I think the cheaper online TEFL has a cost advantage, but I wouldn't pay thousands of dollars for an onsite TEFL to teach in Korea. And it may or may not help in the classroom, it all depends on your situation. However, outside of Korea, as Arizona described, many of the better jobs do require a teacher certification, or a BA or MA in TESOL, Education, English, etc. At least this is what I determined from my searches. |
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sobriquet

Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Location: Nakatomi Plaza
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Decide how much your soul is worth.
Invest in some inflatable butt plugs to make the rodgering you will potentially get from an employer here less painful. |
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runthegauntlet

Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Location: the southlands.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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ReeseDog wrote: |
I read on this forum where being a certified teacher with an education degree and perhaps an MA is advantageous, but other threads here say that you might make an extra 100K won or so and that it isn't worth it.
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Yeah, but that'd be for public schools or hagwons. Frankly, if you have that cert, why would you waste your time in one of those unless you're in serious need of some "getting away from it all" time?
Go for an international school in any of dozens of countries across the globe. Go teach ESL in Hong Kong where, with the certs above, you'll make 3500-7000 USD a month.
Unless I was in an international school in Korea, I wouldn't come here with those certs (if I had them). |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Hakwon teachers in HK don't live a very glamorous life. If fact, you'll bank more here. The OP is American, so to get into the NET program, he/she would need the BEd+MEd+Certification+experience in the US. Forget H.K. for the time being.
OP, if you're just looking at teaching in Korean short term, then concentrate on getting your 'packet' together there so that you can get here as quickly as possible after graduating. A quicky on-line certificate won't help you out much, especially with no experience.
Work on expediting your diploma. Get sealed transcripts with the BA confered and listed on them. Time your FBI background check so that it won't be more than 3 months old when you submit your visa documentation. Have a current passport with at least a couple of years left on it. Have a current CV or resume.
Know where you want to be location-wise: Seoul or outskirts, Pusan, a smaller city, countryside? Personally, I like Seoul. Don't buy any b.s. from recruiters about places 'really close to Seoul'. If it's not IN SEOUL, then it's not Seoul, and it can be a whole different experience. Know who you want to teach - adults, kids, or kiddies. AVOID SPLIT SHIFTS! Will you work only for public schools or will you also work or an institute (hakwon)?
Pepper ALL the recruiters and sift through the responses. See what turns up. Maybe post your resume on a job board (even Dave's). DON'T EVER be pressured to make a fast move. There are jobs enough to go around, and recruiters want you on a plane fast so that they can get paid. Aim for bigger schools rather than mom and pop operations in the sticks. Always insist on talking to current and prior teachers. In short, do your homework.
And above all, remember that a ton of people have been doing this type of work in Korea since before you were born. It's not that hard to pull off as long as you stay organized, do your homework, get a job close to your ideal (but be reasonable), and keep an open mind to the cultural differences. It's not a cakewalk, but it's an experience to be sure.
Good luck. Let us know how things pan out. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a tip no one has mentioned....meet some Koreans back home....get to know some adults and mentioned your interested in going to Korea....ESPECIALLY any professors who are korean....if they know a good gig, they can connect you...I have a professor do that for me...I declined, but it was an awesome choice. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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And here's a good tread to check out:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=142989
I'm the first to admit that I'm not the authority on public school or hakwon jobs. It's been a long time since I've had to deal with the visa hassles and the like. The posters on this thread know what they're talking about and are current. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Take a class on applied linguistics and do a bit of research on SLA theory. |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
OP, if you're just looking at teaching in Korean short term, then concentrate on getting your 'packet' together there so that you can get here as quickly as possible after graduating. A quicky on-line certificate won't help you out much, especially with no experience.
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i disagree, according to EPIK, for example:
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Renumeration
Pay Scale
Level
Requirements
Monthly Pay
Metropolitan city
Province
1+
Level 1 plus 2 consecutive yrs teaching experience within the same Province Office of Education
$2,600
(2.5M KRW)
$2,700-$3,000
(2.6-2.85Million KRW)
1
2 years of teaching experience with one of the followings
-MA degree
-Teacher�s, TEFL,TESOL,CELTA(100+hrs) Certificate
-Education, English Education or English Language/Literature major
As a level 2+, contract renewal a the same POE
$2,400
(2.3Million KRW)
$2,500-$2,800
(2.4-2.65Million KRW)
2+
MA degree in Education, English Education or English Language/Literature
As a Level 2, contract renewal a the same POE
$2,200
(2.1Million KRW)
$2,300-$2,600
(2.2-2.45Million KRW)
2
Must have one of the followings
-Teacher�s, TEFL,TESOL,CELTA(100+hrs) Certificate
-Education, English Education or English Language/Literature major
-BA degree plus 1 yr full-time English teaching experience
MA degree
$2,100
(2.0Million KRW)
$2,200-$2,500
(2.1-2.35Million KRW)
3
BA degree
$1,900
(1.8Million KRW)
$2,100-$2,400
(2.0-2.25)
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so if you just have your BA you'll make 1.8 (this is for the metropolitan cities), but with a BA and a TESOL certificate you can make 2.0. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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I said a 'quickie' on-line certificate! Besides, we don't know if the OP will only be shooting for PS jobs. Better vacation to be sure, but don't know about location choices. That's why I suggested checking out that other link.
And short term, say a year, a hakwon job will still pay around 2.2 or more even without the on-line certification, which, by the way, eveyone I know who has one freely admits are worthless. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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And, man, but are those exchange rate calculations out dated or what?! |
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