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Geoff1111
Joined: 20 Nov 2007
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 Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: Have you noticed a slowdown in privates? |
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I was wondering if the economy has caused less people to seek out private students. I have had trouble getting privates despite making professional ads and posting them in apartment complexes.
Also, it seems on work n play and english spectrum that most of the good
business english gigs have dried up.
Has anyone else noticed this or am I just having a string of bad luck? |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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That's pretty dumb to post ads everywhere, if you ask me.
Are you looking to get busted? |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Only those that are teaching privates illegally would worry about getting busted.
In answer to the OP, no just the opposite, must be a streak you are encountering. Hang in there. |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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My understanding is that the only way for you to do it legally is to get a business licence and pay taxes on your earnings.
Whether you're Korean, a foreigner or an alien privates are illegal unless you pay taxes. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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My understanding is that the only way for you to do it legally is to get a business licence and pay taxes on your earnings.
Whether you're Korean, a foreigner or an alien privates are illegal unless you pay taxes. |
Wow, give that man a cigar. You are correct.
And what lead you to assume that the OP was not doing those things?
A quick search of past posts tells me he has a F2 visa. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on the rest. |
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passingtime
Joined: 27 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| And how do you know the OP isn't doing all that? |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Having talked to people who have the correct Visas and who have attempted to acquire a business licence to do it legally, I was told that it is so much red tape and hassle that it isn't worth it. I doubt there are many people who would go to such lengths to do it legally.
Perhaps the OP has done that, who knows. I'm betting he hasn't, that's all. |
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crosbystillsstash
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| I have a rather large waiting list and people calling every week. I have never advertised. It's all reputation. |
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meangradin
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| I have a rather large waiting list and people calling every week. I have never advertised. It's all reputation. |
ever thought about opening a small school? I forget the name of these types, but hey are not hagwons, and have far less red tape. |
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jbpatlanta
Joined: 02 Jun 2007
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| I have a rather large waiting list and people calling every week. |
I have this same problem. Now a days I teach very few privates and the one I have never seem to want to quit or take a vacation. |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Yes, as I approach middle age.  |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| Big Mac wrote: |
Having talked to people who have the correct Visas and who have attempted to acquire a business licence to do it legally, I was told that it is so much red tape and hassle that it isn't worth it. I doubt there are many people who would go to such lengths to do it legally.
Perhaps the OP has done that, who knows. I'm betting he hasn't, that's all. |
It took me twenty minutes to get mine, and there isn't much red tape at all.
Also, you don't need a business license, you need a private tutors license to teach privates legally if you have the correct visa to go with it. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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You won't be making any money teaching privates in the New Year.
Privates are illegal.
Happy New Year. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Mac wrote: |
Having talked to people who have the correct Visas and who have attempted to acquire a business licence to do it legally, I was told that it is so much red tape and hassle that it isn't worth it. I doubt there are many people who would go to such lengths to do it legally.
Perhaps the OP has done that, who knows. I'm betting he hasn't, that's all. |
It took me twenty minutes to get mine, and there isn't much red tape at all.
Also, you don't need a business license, you need a private tutors license to teach privates legally if you have the correct visa to go with it. |
.... and the maximum legal amount you can charge winds up to be a whopping 5,000 won per hour, or thereabouts. This is because the government wants to LIMIT the amount of money parents pay for private education -- not encourage spending more on it.
I've been through this, too.
No matter how you slice it, the system is set up so that you DO NOT make much money legally. The only way -- I repeat -- the ONLY way you can make anywhere near what you'd make illegally is to fudge the books -- even with the tutors license.
The amount you can charge is based on a formula depending on how many students you teach at how many hours. Your legal certificate, which is to be posted at your home tutoring area, will give the exact amount, and if you have the tutoring license, you are required by law to disclose this to the parents.
This is Korean law.
Please don't get all self-righteous about how "legal" you're being while you know you're screwing with the books. I can say that because I highly doubt you're bothering to charge around 5,000 won per hour for lessons.
Pretty much everyone has to cheat the system in some way here. Even F2's with tutoring licenses (and Koreans, for that matter). |
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Geoff1111
Joined: 20 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a rather large waiting list and people calling every week. I have never advertised. It's all reputation. |
Yes, I have got most of my privates through networking. Since moving to Seoul I have been more of a "home body." This is not good for business.
Regarding the legalities of doing private students in Korea, I am quite sure that it is illegal unless you are a student or willing to make a pittance with a legal tutoring license.
I have an F2 visa, but this does not make it legal. I am willing to take the risk. |
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