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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: Canadians and fake degrees |
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http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/553330
No big names although a VP of the TSE. Hmmm.
Still, brings back some memories of Korea.
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| "I'm sorry. I shouldn't have lied to you," Frederick said. "I should've levelled with you. I figured you'd call the university and theywouldn't tell you anything and that would be the end of it." |
Perhaps she has had experience applying for a job in Korea and their verification methods. |
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roknroll
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Canadians and fake degrees |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/553330
No big names although a VP of the TSE. Hmmm.
Still, brings back some memories of Korea.
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| "I'm sorry. I shouldn't have lied to you," Frederick said. "I should've levelled with you. I figured you'd call the university and theywouldn't tell you anything and that would be the end of it." |
Perhaps she has had experience applying for a job in Korea and their verification methods. |
you're quite selective in your title and examples:
The couple's degrees came from a Washington State diploma mill. Eight ringleaders pleaded guilty to mail and wire fraud charges. They set up 120 fake schools with names like St. Regis University and James Monroe University. There were no courses or classes.
The head provost of St. Regis University was a high school dropout.
The gang raked in more than $7 million in sales to 131 countries. It sold everything from high school diplomas to PhDs and medical degrees. Dozens of U.S. government employees are on the list, including a White House staff member, National Security Agency employees, a senior State Department official, and a Department of Justice employee.
Tens of thousands of people are walking around with "ticking time bombs in their resumes," says Allen Ezell, a former FBI agent who has spent a big chunk of his career investigating diploma mills.
Martial arts expert Augustus Robert Michalik counts the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the U.S. Navy Seals, CIA agents and police officers from across Ontario as students of his Police Tactical Training and Black Arts courses he has taught for years. ...............Days later, all references to his Ph.D. disappeared from the website of Homeland Security Inc. where Michalik is the CEO. The Star was unable to determine which officers from the RCMP or other forces Michalik has trained...........................................Bogus degrees are a billion-dollar-a-year industry, says former FBI agent Ezell, who has spent most of his career investigating the sale of counterfeit and bogus college credentials and is now vice-president for corporate fraud investigation for Wachovia Bank.
Ezell, who headed the massive FBI investigation in the late 1980s, estimates there are 400 Internet diploma mills spewing out 200,000 bogus diplomas a year. More than 85 per cent are located in the U.S.
The fallout from the St. Regis bust is just now being felt across America.
Fourteen New York firefighters were fined more than $135,000 after they submitted bogus degrees from St. Regis in attempts to gain promotions. Six Chicago-area police officers also purchased bogus degrees. One cop even submitted his "tuition" from St. Regis for reimbursement from the department.
His superior, who signed off on the expense, had also obtained a bogus degree from the same diploma mill..........................................................Seeing St. Regis as a threat to national security, a task force comprised of eight federal agencies moved quickly. In six years of operation, St. Regis had spread its tentacles around the globe ensnaring clients across Europe, Russia, the Middle East and Asia. |
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tomwaits
Joined: 05 Feb 2003
Location: PC Bong
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: |
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There HAVE been a lot of stories in Canada lately about this.
The STAR did an undover peice last week about a guy in Toronto selling fake degrees for 4000 dollars. Apparently (like counterfeit money) they are hard to detect. almost perfect, a lot are bought by Asians who get jobs in Shanghai.
Also a Canadian who was defrauding the Workers Comp Board while employed there was on a phony degree.
really a lot of these stories have been popping up lately. When you think about it, with privacy issues, how can employers really check yo u out.
If you have the nerve to do his you can get away with a lot. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see why it shouldn't be possible to verify a degree with one quick phone call. As far as privacy is concerned, little more than a name and a graduating year are required. This information is already plastered in a bunch of yearbooks. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Canadians and fake degrees |
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| roknroll wrote: |
| [you're quite selective in your title and examples: |
I'm Canadian. The parts about Canadians in the article is of interest to me. |
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aldershot
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| please change your adjumma avatar, mindmetoo. |
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livinginkunsan
Joined: 02 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| aldershot wrote: |
| please change your adjumma avatar, mindmetoo. |
I think that troll bumpkin is his girl friend...  |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a nice summary of various types of education fraud posted on the "esl in canada" website:
http://www.eslincanada.com/fraud.html
The illegal teacher situation certainly hasn't helped the ELF field in Korea, and it's well on its way to polluting the EFL teaching field in China at all levels. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| livinginkunsan wrote: |
| aldershot wrote: |
| please change your adjumma avatar, mindmetoo. |
I think that troll bumpkin is his girl friend... |
I miss the photo from when she was wearing pink and her boobs were hanging out slightly. At least, I think she was wearing pink. Time for a change, MMII! |
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livinginkunsan
Joined: 02 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
| livinginkunsan wrote: |
| aldershot wrote: |
| please change your adjumma avatar, mindmetoo. |
I think that troll bumpkin is his girl friend... |
I miss the photo from when she was wearing pink and her boobs were hanging out slightly. At least, I think she was wearing pink. Time for a change, MMII! |
You miss one of his avatars? Are you a masochist or something? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
Here's a nice summary of various types of education fraud posted on the "esl in canada" website:
http://www.eslincanada.com/fraud.html
The illegal teacher situation certainly hasn't helped the ELF field in Korea, and it's well on its way to polluting the EFL teaching field in China at all levels. |
Indeed. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Canadians and fake degrees |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| roknroll wrote: |
| [you're quite selective in your title and examples: |
I'm Canadian. The parts about Canadians in the article is of interest to me. |
I always like your avatars MM2, but am not digging your choice of thread titles here. |
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sojusucks
Joined: 31 May 2008
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Canadians and fake degrees |
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[quote="roknroll"]
| mindmetoo wrote: |
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/553330
No big names although a VP of the TSE. Hmmm.
Still, brings back some memories of Korea.
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| "I'm sorry. I shouldn't have lied to you," Frederick said. "I should've levelled with you. I figured you'd call the university and theywouldn't tell you anything and that would be the end of it." |
Perhaps she has had experience applying for a job in Korea and their verification methods. |
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| you're quite selective in your title and examples |
I agree. The OP is quite selective. I wonder why. A narrow presentation by the distortion of the context around facts. Isn't that what we are taught NOT to do in university. Maybe this person has a fake degree. |
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aquaponics08
Joined: 22 Dec 2008
Location: Korea
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Canada?!? What state is that in?!?  |
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