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[polonius]

So, I was thinking. With all this talk of ATEK and the discrimination towards teachers, wouldn't it be better if MOE took charge of the CRC.

Here is how my suggestion would work.

In order for an E2 visa issuance number to be issued, immigration requires 8 things. Contract, pictures, photocopy of passport picture page, self stated health check, resume, Degree, transcripts and criminal check.

As it is, immigration does not keep the degree that is submitted as it is property of the teacher. I would suggest that they not keep the CRC as well.

The degree must then be shown to the MOE. Why not include the CRC in that package, as that was what they were doing long before this with the public school sector.

If the teacher is an F series visa holder, than they too should submit the CRC and degree to MOE, as they did in the public school sector.

I agree that F series visa holders should not submit the criminal check in order to receive their visa, unless it is an F5, (not really my belief, but it seems to be immigrations protocol now) which is almost like perminent status. However, I do believe that everyone should submit a CRC if they are working with children.

I have more faith in MOE keeping a computer record that teacher A has submitted a criminal check, and no longer needs to submit another one.

There are so many variants to this however, such as the shady hagwons not submitting paper work to the MOE.

I am sure there are holes in this theory. Feel free to poke away at them, and come up with some changes to make it better. Maybe then after some sort of consensus of what would be the best course of action could be brought to the MOJ and MOE. I don't think that they are unreasonable, and if presented with something that is more effecient, perhaps they might agree to it.

And to Chicken Lover, I am not trying to start up a class action group, nor trying to get membership. I am trying to suggest a better way around what ATEK had attempted to do. I await your response, and hope that you can suggest some good ideas.

I know this is all wishful thinking, and even though I am leaving in August, I would like to try to make things a little more efficient. That is what I do in my current position at my hagwon.

Cut, scrape, argue, disagree. If I am wrong, say so, I would consider it as brainstorming a proposal rather than sinking a ship

[gteacher]

[Ya-ta Boy]

A simpler more efficient system would be this:

a)The first time we apply for a work visa, we submit all the forms required by Immi and they check the university etc and issue each of us an ID number.

b) When we apply for a job at any time in the future, we include our ID number. The school checks with Immi to see that we are indeed who we say we are.

c) Finished.

One or possibly two office workers stashed somewhere in an office with a computer can send out our transcripts by e-mail to any school/job interested in hiring us.

[some waygug-in]

They already have this information.... as in the number on our ARC, if I'm not mistaken. All they have to do is look on their computers and they have records of our past work history/visas in Korea.

It should be a relatively easy thing for them to be able to see whether or not all relevant documents were submitted in previous years, at least that's what you'd think.

For some reason, they are refusing to do this. I can only assume it's because they want to make things as difficult, complicated and time consuming for us as possible.

[TheUrbanMyth]

[some waygug-in]

Lazyness, or policy I am not sure, but I know I have been in there and they have had my complete records in front of them on the computor, and they still insist on having me submit all documents yet again.

Whatever the reason, it sucks for us.

[Ramen]

[cruisemonkey]