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jasons1003
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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 Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:53 am Post subject: Teach at a public school and at a hakwon concurrently? |
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| Can you? I am going to obtain a F-4 Visa as a Kyopo soon. I am wondering do Korean gov. allow F-4 or E-2 holders to teach at a public school and at a hakwon concurrently? It does not sound illegal but I would be worried about public school teachers teaching school exams at a hakwon without the school's permission. I need your 2 cents peeps. Thanks. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| Public school is 40 hours a week so you would need to have lots of energy to also do a hogwan job. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:59 am Post subject: |
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Not legally on an E2 visa. You can't add a hagwon to a hagwon, a public school to a hagwon or a hagwon to a public school.
You can, however, add a public school to a public school. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| No you can't. As a public employee it's not allowed. |
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jasons1003
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:25 am Post subject: So what is the best way to make money? |
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| I read best way to make money is to teach an early class, usually adult, in the wee hours of 6AM to 9AM then teach kindy from 10AM to whatever, go back to teaching adults from 6PM to 9PM. I am really trying to figure this out before I contract with some shady hakwon only to get screwed in the behind. Any personal experiences??? |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| Only way you can legally do it is as an F-series visa working 2 PT jobs. I've been tempted to leave my univ to do it, but I enjoy my vacation. |
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jasons1003
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:32 am Post subject: What do you lose by doing 2 part time jobs? |
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| What about your med. benefit and severance packs? I would assume part timers are going for money instead of some safety net...? |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:05 am Post subject: |
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I've not done it myself, but I've been told that it's perfectly legal to teach at a PS and a hagwon concurrently under two conditions - 1) the "main" school is okay with it (and you get it in writing - although many already have their rules on this matter written directly into their contracts) and, subsequently 2) you have the visa officially changed (via Immigration) to show the new employer.
My last two employers have had clauses in the contract specifically stating that part-time work was fine as long as it was cleared with them first, handled legally and didn't interfere with any duties at the "main" school. The last school was a Public High and the current is a Seoul Uni. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| I think they changed the regulation. I could be wrong, but it's the word on the streets that you can't add a hagwon anymore. Maybe they'd let it slide, but I don't think so. |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Scotticus wrote: |
I've not done it myself, but I've been told that it's perfectly legal to teach at a PS and a hagwon concurrently under two conditions - 1) the "main" school is okay with it (and you get it in writing - although many already have their rules on this matter written directly into their contracts) and, subsequently 2) you have the visa officially changed (via Immigration) to show the new employer.
My last two employers have had clauses in the contract specifically stating that part-time work was fine as long as it was cleared with them first, handled legally and didn't interfere with any duties at the "main" school. The last school was a Public High and the current is a Seoul Uni. |
This is true, but with one further stipulation. The hours and pay must be less than the primary employment. |
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roknroll
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
| Scotticus wrote: |
I've not done it myself, but I've been told that it's perfectly legal to teach at a PS and a hagwon concurrently under two conditions - 1) the "main" school is okay with it (and you get it in writing - although many already have their rules on this matter written directly into their contracts) and, subsequently 2) you have the visa officially changed (via Immigration) to show the new employer.
My last two employers have had clauses in the contract specifically stating that part-time work was fine as long as it was cleared with them first, handled legally and didn't interfere with any duties at the "main" school. The last school was a Public High and the current is a Seoul Uni. |
This is true, but with one further stipulation. The hours and pay must be less than the primary employment. |
and not more than X hours a week (40 ish, i think). Unless there's been recent changes (i doubt it), previous posters have said that they've added hagwons to hagwons, one poster even having 2 hags added to his visa-sponsoring hagwon. Pay your 60,000 won and give it a whirl. I believe they simply add the new place of employment (part-time) to your ARC (alien registration card)--on the back. Public and hagwon may be difficult in your case if you're tied to the PS from 8-4ish and then work an evening shift as DD mentioned--long days. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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It depends, I've met hagwon teachers that teach "extra classes" in public schools. This means you are not working for the school but are contracted through your hagwan to teach there. You would not be the school's foreign teacher and you would not teach the regular classes. You might teach some after school or extra classes for the school.
I don't know about the legality and how to arrange it with immigration, but I know it is being done. |
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