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asylum seeker
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 Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:31 am Post subject: Let's debate theism |
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As continued from the other thread:
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You may believe it or not. But you cannot prove or disprove it. So leave it alone, at least given our present technologies and understandings.
From whence did your Z Particle come, hmm? What was there before the initial spark and how long had it been there? If your universe is expanding, what is it expanding into? How large is that space and where did it come from? Science can not only do little more than speculate on these points, but it can only guess at the universe's initial conditions as well. |
Exactly. In a sense this was the point I was getting at. It's all just speculation, including any talk of a creator that sits outside the universe. The fact that science can't prove that a God doesn't exist does not make it a truism that God does exist.
You can believe what you want and if religious people admitted their religions were all based on speculation that would be fine. However some theists go beyond that and talk about 'proof' and 'evidence':
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On the other hand, theists just have different conclusion in that they consider the existing evidence enough to believe that God is out there. |
What is the 'existing evidence that God is out there'? |
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Chuvok
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| *Groan*.......... There is no god, but those you create! Live your life! |
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Rteacher
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some waygug-in
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CyberGuy
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asylum seeker
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:23 am Post subject: |
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The point is I'm not bashing them, you idiot. I was just trying to continue the previous debate in a thread without such a provocative title. |
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CyberGuy
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| asylum seeker wrote: |
The point is I'm not bashing them, you idiot. I was just trying to continue the previous debate in a thread without such a provocative title. |
I see, you are the missing connection of evolution.
Chimps like you are trolling all around. You idiot must know that my post was totally opposite to the title, from which even a junior school kid can know it is sarcastic title and not provocative.
Grow up kid !! |
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ED209
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Seriously CyberGuy, is English your first language? |
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chickenpie
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Gopher is a god nutter shock.  |
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CyberGuy
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| Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ED209 wrote: |
| Seriously CyberGuy, is English your first language? |
I know multiple languages and suck at'em at the same time. Sorry for typos and bad grammar not fulfilling your bare English necessities. |
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Chuvok
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| Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| CyberGuy wrote: |
I know multiple languages and suck at'em at the same time.. |
Tell us which languages you know. |
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