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What does being on a hagwon's blacklist mean?

 
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dereklee003



Joined: 03 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: What does being on a hagwon's blacklist mean? Reply with quote

Say you were offered a job at a large hagwon in Korea, accepted it, then the next day changed your mind, and the hagwon tells you because you did this you will be on their system blacklist and it will be hard to find another esl job in Korea?

Is this just an internal list they have for their company, or does it make its way at all to other employers/schools and/or the korean consulate and really hurt your chances?

Should it even be worried about?
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only sign that you accept a job is if you signed the contract and sent your visa paperwork in. If you haven't started it, I would hardly call it accepting.

If they are threatening you like that, then that must mean you almost got suckered into a crappy job. They thought they could use you. Now they have to find someone else.

It's not like they could have had a teacher and were waiting weeks. However, yea, never expect an offer from them again.

In Japan, a second school asked if I could do a workshop. I told them sure, just let me get permission from the main school I was working at to make sure times didn't conflict. I called back after 30 minutes and they said they got someone else to teach. From that point on, they never hired me to work at their school. I could only do coffee shop lessons, LOL.
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plynx



Joined: 03 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: What does being on a hagwon's blacklist mean? Reply with quote

dereklee003 wrote:
Say you were offered a job at a large hagwon in Korea, accepted it, then the next day changed your mind, and the hagwon tells you because you did this you will be on their system blacklist and it will be hard to find another esl job in Korea?

Is this just an internal list they have for their company, or does it make its way at all to other employers/schools and/or the korean consulate and really hurt your chances?

Should it even be worried about?


Laughing i'd say you dodged a bullet by declining an offer from any company that would threaten you for not signing. they might be able to "blacklist" you from their own company, but they have no authority with immigration or alternate employers. don't give it a second thought (assuming you haven't sent in any personal documents - diplomas, transcripts, etc.).
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dereklee003



Joined: 03 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice...thats a relief...as a newbie i dont really know how it all works so i won't worry about it then..thanks
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, don't worry about it.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:04 am    Post subject: Re: What does being on a hagwon's blacklist mean? Reply with quote

dereklee003 wrote:
Say you were offered a job at a large hagwon in Korea, accepted it, then the next day changed your mind, and the hagwon tells you because you did this you will be on their system blacklist and it will be hard to find another esl job in Korea?

Is this just an internal list they have for their company, or does it make its way at all to other employers/schools and/or the korean consulate and really hurt your chances?

Should it even be worried about?


At least you aren't on the public school's blacklist.

Many hogwons belong to the Hogwon Association. Chances are you may not be able to find work with most hogwons.

However, you probably will be able to find a job with a public school.
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Toon Army



Joined: 12 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:46 am    Post subject: Re: What does being on a hagwon's blacklist mean? Reply with quote

dereklee003 wrote:
Say you were offered a job at a large hagwon in Korea, accepted it, then the next day changed your mind, and the hagwon tells you because you did this you will be on their system blacklist and it will be hard to find another esl job in Korea?

Is this just an internal list they have for their company, or does it make its way at all to other employers/schools and/or the korean consulate and really hurt your chances?

Should it even be worried about?


nothing to worry about. Had a few friends who have been threatened with being put on the so called blacklist and immigration blacklist and they had no problems securing other jobs, hagwon and public school.

Which large hagwon threatened this just out of interest? YBM? CDI?
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Teelo



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which large hagwon threatened this just out of interest? YBM? CDI?
I too am curious. I wonder if it was a wonderland though (pun intended).
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

please DO POST THE NAME OF THE HAGWON

seriously - people need to know about this - it's utterly ridiculous!!!
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dereklee003



Joined: 03 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was Avalon...but no worries, i got another job I am starting in Busan next week...so i guess his threat was meaningless...unless i want to work for them someday, which i wont!
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Teelo



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ

PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dereklee003 wrote:
It was Avalon..
Really? Shocked
I always thought Avalon was a decent chain!
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