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I-am-me
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 Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:33 am Post subject: Teaching High School |
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I have taught elementary age kids for quiet a while, but now I am jumping feet first into teaching high school kids. Anybody have any advice or insight into how different it will be? I really dont know what they do in high school in korea or their demeanor in learning. Elementary kids were usually a blast.  |
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yingwenlaoshi
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| I'm thinking that it would be ok. Just as long as you're not too hard on them. Too bad it doesn't pay too well to work in public schools. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:46 am Post subject: Re: Teaching High School |
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| I-am-me wrote: |
| Anybody have any advice or insight into how different it will be? I really dont know what they do in high school in korea... |
In high school they'll be wearing uniforms; and they sleep during the FT's English class. If it's a boy's high school, they'll spit on the floor. When they do, beat them... it's good training for their future army 'experience'.  |
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| they sleep during the FT's English class |
I guess I wont have to answer too many questions then!  |
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John_ESL_White
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:01 am Post subject: |
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It's going to depend on what kind of HS you get stuck at: academic, technical, or international. I teach a HS history teacher who has worked at all the above and she says the difference is immense betweeen the types of schools.
Technical HSs will be the most challenging. A lot of the kids are troubled- home life problems, etc. Don't expect much in the way of respect or ability at a tech HS.
Academic HSs will vary from region to region and city to city. Some are fantastic and some are loathesome. I know a guy who teaches E at one of the later and he loves it. However, his personality is "unique". He has more energy than the Chernobyl meltdown.
International HSs are gold for FTs. They pay more, you get treated with respect, and the kids usually have a higher level of English-e than other HSs. |
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D.D.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| I'm thinking that it would be ok. Just as long as you're not too hard on them. Too bad it doesn't pay too well to work in public schools. |
I usually take home about 2.9 after taxes and pension and stuff at p/s and I have been off 45 days this winter. So what you on about Ying.
High school students are preparing for exams and I believe English is not one of their major concerns. As the other person said Techie students would be hell and international students heaven. |
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yingwenlaoshi
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| D.D. wrote: |
| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| I'm thinking that it would be ok. Just as long as you're not too hard on them. Too bad it doesn't pay too well to work in public schools. |
I usually take home about 2.9 after taxes and pension and stuff at p/s and I have been off 45 days this winter. So what you on about Ying.
High school students are preparing for exams and I believe English is not one of their major concerns. As the other person said Techie students would be hell and international students heaven. |
Your monthly salary is 2.9? How's that? Thought they had limits. Like 2.4 if you have a Masters or whatever other credientials. Maybe more if you work in a rural area and/or at multiple schools. Then you'd max out at 2.6. Don't assume the OP has all of those credentials. And pension isn't salary. By stuff, I'm guessing you're talking about overtime. There's no guarantee everyone's going to get OT. And you'd have to be working a shitload of overtime to reach 2.9. And you wouldn't be making that during your vacation.
Come on now. A lot of ifs, ands & buts. And false padding. Get real and get your head out of the clouds. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| D.D. wrote: |
| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| I'm thinking that it would be ok. Just as long as you're not too hard on them. Too bad it doesn't pay too well to work in public schools. |
I usually take home about 2.9 after taxes and pension and stuff at p/s and I have been off 45 days this winter. So what you on about Ying.
High school students are preparing for exams and I believe English is not one of their major concerns. As the other person said Techie students would be hell and international students heaven. |
Your monthly salary is 2.9? How's that? Thought they had limits. Like 2.4 if you have a Masters or whatever other credientials. Maybe more if you work in a rural area and/or at multiple schools. Then you'd max out at 2.6. Don't assume the OP has all of those credentials. And pension isn't salary. By stuff, I'm guessing you're talking about overtime. There's no guarantee everyone's going to get OT. And you'd have to be working a shitload of overtime to reach 2.9. And you wouldn't be making that during your vacation.
Come on now. A lot of ifs, ands & buts. And false padding. Get real and get your head out of the clouds. |
The guy probably gets the housing subsidy. |
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Zutronius
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Suncheon
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I teach at a girls high school and it's a great job. The students in general are pretty good, the staff treats me very well, and there is lots of random time off. The students are at school for 10+ hours a day and are usually sleeping or looking burnt out. Despite how crappy high school is for them, they are such bubbly and happy people. |
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Easter Clark
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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They learn in very different ways. Implicit learning ability tends to go way down while cognative awareness increases, especially in Korea where at that age almost all instruction is explicit.
As for the schools, there tends to be a huge difference between academic HS versus vocational / technical HS. You can teach a lot at the former, but not much at the latter. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching High School |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| I-am-me wrote: |
| Anybody have any advice or insight into how different it will be? I really dont know what they do in high school in korea... |
In high school they'll be wearing uniforms; and they sleep during the FT's English class. If it's a boy's high school, they'll spit on the floor. |
Perhaps more so, but as someone who's made a HS girl get down and clean her spittle off the (classroom) floor, I can tell you that it isn't strictly a gender thing. |
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espoir
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Location: Incheon, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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If you get a technical highschool run for the hills!!!! I am currently teaching at a technical highschool and can tell you its no peach. The kids dont really care to learn at all and their english ability is horrendous!! I have actually spent an entire class on just ways to greet and say goodbye to people and still I dont think some kids understood.
When I look at what I do with my kids, very, very simple exercises and basic vocabulary, and what my friends do I cant wait to move to another school. Like one of my friends teaches an ancient history class in english and also a current event politics class. That is something I would love to teach!!! Instead I am stuck with "The weather is nice" "it is raining outside" lessons  |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| D.D. wrote: |
| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| I'm thinking that it would be ok. Just as long as you're not too hard on them. Too bad it doesn't pay too well to work in public schools. |
I usually take home about 2.9 after taxes and pension and stuff at p/s and I have been off 45 days this winter. So what you on about Ying.
High school students are preparing for exams and I believe English is not one of their major concerns. As the other person said Techie students would be hell and international students heaven. |
Your monthly salary is 2.9? How's that? Thought they had limits. Like 2.4 if you have a Masters or whatever other credientials. Maybe more if you work in a rural area and/or at multiple schools. Then you'd max out at 2.6. Don't assume the OP has all of those credentials. And pension isn't salary. By stuff, I'm guessing you're talking about overtime. There's no guarantee everyone's going to get OT. And you'd have to be working a shitload of overtime to reach 2.9. And you wouldn't be making that during your vacation.
Come on now. A lot of ifs, ands & buts. And false padding. Get real and get your head out of the clouds. |
It's 5 classes overtime done between 340-430. So 27 classes a week and one of them pays 100000 a class. |
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Zulethe
Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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AAAAAhaaaahaahahahaha
High school sucks big watermelons....50 minutes of zombie stares in front of 50 mindless drones can feel like 50 hours....
aaaaaaaahahahahahahaha.
enjoy.
I can't wait to go back to my elementary school with 12 kids per class where I do what ever fun thing I want. I love it.
High school is the dumbest job you could ever possibly take
ENJOY....AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF IM WRONG....I'LL WAGER MONEY THAT I'M NOT....your experience vs. mine
I create my own reality...you just buried yours
haaaaaahahahahahahahaha |
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