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greek buddha



Joined: 01 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: I've got a question about Korean language Reply with quote

I want to know if anyone can help with this. When you say or Korean's say anyiong ha seyo. What is your reply? is it just the same, anyiong ha seyo? I've asked some Korean's and they say yes. I asked if there is anything else I can say as a greeting, different was of saying hello, but they mostly say that, "oh, we just say anyiong ha seyo also" I find that hard to believe. I told them that, that sounds impossible. I know that you can say anyiong to your friend's or someone younger, or chari so so to some young kids. I would like to be able to say something more like how have you been, or long time no see kinda thing instead of always saying just anyiong ha seyo all the time. Does this make any sense??
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: I've got a question about Korean language Reply with quote

greek buddha wrote:
I want to know if anyone can help with this. When you say or Korean's say anyiong ha seyo.

It's not a greeting, it's a question. "Are you at peace?" The appropriate response is "Ne." (Yes.) This is followed by the same question repeated in return.
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exit86



Joined: 17 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you will find that the Korean language is far far less
unpredictable and varied than the English language as used
by Koreans.

Example: Go on the subway on a freezing-ass cold winter day.
Listen.
You'll hear the same verb "춥다" repeated over and over and over--
something like this:

"Wow! It is cold!"
"I'm cold"
"Cold!"
"Cold, eh?'
"Very cold!"

In English conversation, we insist upon varying our expressions:

"I'm freezing my nuts off!"
"It is colder than a well-diggers butt!"
"Shit, why the hell is it so f'ing cold?"
"My ass is frozen"
"Brrrrrrrrrrrrr"

I think this is one reason Koreans in particular have a difficult time
with English; it is an unpredictable language where speakers
use different types of terminology for the expression of--not only--feelings/sensations, but also for an expression of one's personality.


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madxkilla



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile
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Jammer113



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans do have several different greetings, and they're often used in conjunction with "안녕하세요?" when responding.

You can say "Did you eat?" "How are things going?" 'Everything is going well, I hope?" and a few others, I'm sure. I won't write exact translations or conversations because there's a fair chance I'll get particulars wrong.

I think it's also a little bit of a myth that English is so incredibly varied. We have conventions, as well. If your boss says to you, in English, "How are you today?" You cannot answer "Hey, what's up?" If your friend says to you, "What's up?" you cannot answer, "I'm fine today, how are you?"

Quote:
"I'm freezing my nuts off!"
"It is colder than a well-diggers butt!"
"Shit, why the hell is it so f'ing cold?"
"My ass is frozen"
"Brrrrrrrrrrrrr"


I've only actually heard one of those used in conversation, that I can remember. All of those examples except the last one are crass, as well. We may also be limiting ourselves in Korea by only dealing with educated professionals. I'm sure if you drop into common language, Korean becomes just as varied and colorful as common English.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard 좆까추워 before.

"Pen1s kicking cold".
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Chamchiman



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
Location: Digging the Grave

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
I've heard 좆까추워 before..


jkelly80 wrote:
Our house, our country, our language! 좆까!


jkelly80 wrote:
Or give them a healthy 좆까.


Hey OneTrackJack, got anything else on your mind?
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's my favorite 욕. Sue me.
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
It's my favorite 욕. Sue me.


You remind me of my immature students who wander around muttering "*beep*" under their breath and then bursting into giggles.
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chi le ma?
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AltF4



Joined: 22 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jammer113 wrote:
Koreans do have several different greetings, and they're often used in conjunction with "안녕하세요?" when responding.

You can say "Did you eat?" "How are things going?" 'Everything is going well, I hope?" and a few others, I'm sure. I won't write exact translations or conversations because there's a fair chance I'll get particulars wrong.

I think it's also a little bit of a myth that English is so incredibly varied. We have conventions, as well. If your boss says to you, in English, "How are you today?" You cannot answer "Hey, what's up?" If your friend says to you, "What's up?" you cannot answer, "I'm fine today, how are you?"

Quote:
"I'm freezing my nuts off!"
"It is colder than a well-diggers butt!"
"Shit, why the hell is it so f'ing cold?"
"My ass is frozen"
"Brrrrrrrrrrrrr"


I've only actually heard one of those used in conversation, that I can remember. All of those examples except the last one are crass, as well. We may also be limiting ourselves in Korea by only dealing with educated professionals. I'm sure if you drop into common language, Korean becomes just as varied and colorful as common English.


i.e.)
존나 추워!
얼어 죽을것 같아..
뭔 놈의 날씨가 이렇게 지랄같아..
손가락/발가락 감각이 사라졌어.

It's fucking cold!
I'm going to freeze to death..
What the hell's up with the weather? (When used on a cold day, it means it's cold. Vice versa for a hot/blizzarding/rainy/etc day)
I can't feel my fingers/toes..
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kingplaya4



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a word for freezing (sorry no hangul) but its ggong ggong hada. Double gee-ught "o" + "ng". There are a few cases where I've been surprised that Korean doesn't have more options (classic case being borrow and lend), but mostly I'm shocked at how many words there are for virtually the same thing. There's four words for a woman's older brother, although I believe two of them are rarely used anymore.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samd wrote:
jkelly80 wrote:
It's my favorite 욕. Sue me.


You remind me of my immature students who wander around muttering "*beep*" under their breath and then bursting into giggles.


You remind me of an old woman, clutching her pearls. In perpetuity.
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Ginormousaurus



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
samd wrote:
jkelly80 wrote:
It's my favorite 욕. Sue me.


You remind me of my immature students who wander around muttering "*beep*" under their breath and then bursting into giggles.


You remind me of an old woman, clutching her pearls. In perpetuity.



Laughing Laughing

You're too fuking funny sometimes! Keep it up!
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greek buddha



Joined: 01 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the responses, that's what i've being trying to get at. we have many different responses to greetings and that's what i've wondered with the korean language. it doesn't make sense to me that there is only one response to someone saying anyiong ha seyo. i've been told by some, and maybe it's just laziness to teach me more, that most people just say anyiong ha seyo back in response. If someone in english says " hello, how are you? sure you can respond with "i'm fine thank you and you? but, i can't imagine everyone just going around and saying "hello, how are you and the response being "yes, hello, how are you? doesn't that seem odd? that's what i've been getting at here with some koreans i know. they seem almost unwilling to teach me more, which is frustrating. they just say to me, " well, we don't really say anything else" "we just say anyiong ha seyo" sometimes i feel that it's believable given just the way the language is or the culture. then, when i compare it to other languages i feel they are just lazy to teach me other responses and just say that.
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