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AussieGav
Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Location: Uijeongbu
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject: What constitutes an overtime class? |
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I work in a GEPIK Middle School and it looks like this semester I may go over the 22 classes covered under the contract. I will have 21 or 22 regular classes, two or three after school classes (drama club and newspaper club) and five Englishee Zone sessions (held during lunchtime).
The questions I have are:
Are all of these, in excess of 22, classified as overtime classes?
How is record kept and who keeps it?
Any other general information about this would be greatly appreciated. |
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fromtheuk
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Anything over 22 hours counts as overtime. My co-teacher keeps a record of how many OT hours I work. Every so often, she asks me to sign a paper which confirms the OT hours worked, then eventually you get paid for them.
After you build up a certain number of OT hours, they'll pay you for them. |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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^ not only that, but it includes any hours that you teach outside your 8 working hours a day. |
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sobriquet

Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Location: Nakatomi Plaza
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Yup
I used to get an hours overtime for starting at 8:15 rather than 8:30.
That was when the school padded out my timetable with phantom teachers classes to keep the POE off their back |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yup. Anything in excess of 22 classes a week is overtime.
By your calculations, you will be teaching 28-30 classes a week. That's 6-8 hours of overtime a week.
But beware!!! Say you have 6 classes on a monday and one of the following happens:
1. Public/school Holiday.
2. Sports day etc. so classes are cancelled.
BOOM. You've just lost your OT for the week.
You've been around a bit, so you'll know how often classes are cancelled, and everytime a class is cancelled (usually at the last minute) it costs you overtime.
For this reason, I'm very wary of working overtime. On average, 2 weeks a month I have classes cancelled, and thus working "overtime" often equates to working harder for less. (or technically the same) |
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sobriquet

Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Location: Nakatomi Plaza
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Otherside wrote: |
Yup. Anything in excess of 22 classes a week is overtime.
By your calculations, you will be teaching 28-30 classes a week. That's 6-8 hours of overtime a week.
But beware!!! Say you have 6 classes on a monday and one of the following happens:
1. Public/school Holiday.
2. Sports day etc. so classes are cancelled.
BOOM. You've just lost your OT for the week.
You've been around a bit, so you'll know how often classes are cancelled, and everytime a class is cancelled (usually at the last minute) it costs you overtime.
For this reason, I'm very wary of working overtime. On average, 2 weeks a month I have classes cancelled, and thus working "overtime" often equates to working harder for less. (or technically the same) |
never lost mine because of that |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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sobriquet, so you are telling me that on the Chuseok weekend (or another similar occasion, where 3 days or so of school are cancelled) you'll still get paid your 3,4,5,6 or 10 hours of overtime even though you only taught 10 classes the whole week? |
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sobriquet

Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Location: Nakatomi Plaza
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Otherside wrote: |
sobriquet, so you are telling me that on the Chuseok weekend (or another similar occasion, where 3 days or so of school are cancelled) you'll still get paid your 3,4,5,6 or 10 hours of overtime even though you only taught 10 classes the whole week? |
Yes.
Is it hard to understand? |
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alex83
Joined: 03 May 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Also, for those hours outside your 8 official hours, it's your choice to work.
So, negotiate an hourly rate with them that you're happy with (if you want to do it at all!) |
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ardis
Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Otherside wrote: |
Yup. Anything in excess of 22 classes a week is overtime.
By your calculations, you will be teaching 28-30 classes a week. That's 6-8 hours of overtime a week.
But beware!!! Say you have 6 classes on a monday and one of the following happens:
1. Public/school Holiday.
2. Sports day etc. so classes are cancelled.
BOOM. You've just lost your OT for the week.
You've been around a bit, so you'll know how often classes are cancelled, and everytime a class is cancelled (usually at the last minute) it costs you overtime.
For this reason, I'm very wary of working overtime. On average, 2 weeks a month I have classes cancelled, and thus working "overtime" often equates to working harder for less. (or technically the same) |
I've never had an issue with this, nor have any of my EPIK/SMOE friends. I don't think this happens to the majority of us. |
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