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rusty1983
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:15 pm Post subject: Bouncing Back |
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So, Im still a fairly new teacher and seeing as I teach 8 hours a day; 6 of them via a direct method, my brain sometimes switches off and I make a mistake or forget a grammar point (or even get mixed up and teach it wrong). This has occasionally lead to the lesson becoming a total write-off and despite my skills at covering up and recovering from mistakes I still find my confidence is utterly shaken.
I blush, lose my flow, lose my vim and find that under the pressure I cant think whatsoever.
Sometimes I wonder if Ive lost the trust of my students completely. I find I am quite well respected and my classes are very entertaining and engrossing, but until I can master the more complex technical aspects of the English language fear I run the risk of more big mistakes and awkward situations.
I need to know how to bounce back quickly from big mistakes. Or even better how to not make, or how to appear not to be making them, in the first place. |
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linky123
Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Have you ever seen a Korean college entrance hakwon English teacher teach? If you could understand what they were teaching, I'd swear if you knew English grammar at all. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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That goes for everyone, is my guess. |
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Special BK
Joined: 03 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:03 am Post subject: |
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sorry but i seriously don't teach at all. I bs my way through most classes basically.
give them the book... make them write lots of stuff.
and yeah i used to feel bad about it, and was a bit worried when i saw the vice principal walking about.. but when i realised that the school didn't care i figured that there's no point for me to stress out too much about things is the school obviously doesn't give a crap. |
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Chuvok

Joined: 25 Jan 2009 Location: Russia
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:33 am Post subject: |
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I used to dread days when the photocopier would break down, because I'd actually have to work instead of just having students do drills from Headway.
But now I actually care about my job, and make an effort. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:17 am Post subject: |
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OP,
Try not to be too hard on yourself. No one is perfect. Admit when you screw up and learn from it. I've told the kids on many occasions how "crazy" English can be. I''m a pretty good speller but sometimes I trip up and the kids will catch me. I just say "oops! Teacher is getting old! You guys are geniuses!" As long as the mistakes don't happen too often, I wouldn't sweat it. As time goes on, these lessons will sink in and you'll get your confidence back. I've also been straight up with the kids and told them that I've never studied English grammar (not much anyhow). I praise them for what they do know. They know the rules; I know them by instinct. That being said, I don't teach grammar, but if I did, I would certainly study so I'd know the right terms. Sounds like you need to do some studying yourself. No shame in that.
So, in a nutshell: be honest; praise; study; relax. It'll come to you over time.
Good luck with it...
Bobby |
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rusty1983
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I had a tough day, Ill recover. I actually screwed up this week teaching a certain grammar point, sank completely. But they came up again in a lesson late on Friday afternoon and I was able to teach it very well, and so had a happy ending to the week.
I never cared much when I was teaching kids, as I was told I was there for them to practise on(!), but Im currently teaching adults, and I believe the general consensus is that they know pretty much as much or more about grammar than the teachers.
I guess as long as you square up your mistakes afterwards they cant complain too much.
I guess this is why a lot of the well-paying schools around wont accept anyone with less than 2 years experience!! |
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meangradin

Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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crazy thought here; why not draw up a detailed lesson plan and syllabus, then you can cut down on mistakes caused by not being prepared.
if you want to be an effective teacher, you must put a lot of planning time in to your classes; you get out what you put in, is axiomatic in life. also, keep everything you make, record how your classes went in a diary, so you can go brush up on your weak points, and build on your strong ones, and in no time, you'll be a machine.
you are right about adults, they are harder to BS, especially if they start asking you grammar questions. but hey, you are paid to teach, so you should be diligent, and put the time in. imo, never be afraid to say you don't know the answer to a s's question, but that you'll have the answer asap. then go and find the answer.
the good thing is that you care enough to vent your concern, now just invest yourself |
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meangradin

Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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double post |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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meangradin wrote: |
double post |
You could've deleted it, but not now. |
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rusty1983
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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meangradin wrote: |
crazy thought here; why not draw up a detailed lesson plan and syllabus, then you can cut down on mistakes caused by not being prepared.
if you want to be an effective teacher, you must put a lot of planning time in to your classes; you get out what you put in, is axiomatic in life. also, keep everything you make, record how your classes went in a diary, so you can go brush up on your weak points, and build on your strong ones, and in no time, you'll be a machine.
you are right about adults, they are harder to BS, especially if they start asking you grammar questions. but hey, you are paid to teach, so you should be diligent, and put the time in. imo, never be afraid to say you don't know the answer to a s's question, but that you'll have the answer asap. then go and find the answer.
the good thing is that you care enough to vent your concern, now just invest yourself |
This is true. Not to be a pain in the bum, but it's tricky as I currently teach 8 hours a day. So it's hard to find the time to plan, but worth it. The job I have, although tiring is pretty hard to come by in these parts. Im a little paranoid too as lots of people seem to be turning to this in England as other industries struggle.
However, this is probably the key, keeping a journal and making a post-mortem is an especially good idea I think. I'm gonna start doing it on Monday, on the bus home. Use some of my lunch time as well.
I also realised Ive had a pocket book of grammar for the whole time Ive been teaching and not once taken it to school! Hahaha.
Adults can be much more demanding, and they often vent other frustrations on the teachers I feel. There are a lot of things the school needs to get right for them to be satisfied and if they arent you can become an easy target. I'm lucky in that most of them are pretty nice and respectful, and feel well established now.
Obviously I have concerns about grammar so I can focus on that more in the coming weeks. I think it's been frustrating for me because Ive been getting other aspects of teaching right, engaging them and such. |
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meangradin

Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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This is true. Not to be a pain in the bum, but it's tricky as I currently teach 8 hours a day. So it's hard to find the time to plan, but worth it. The job I have, although tiring is pretty hard to come by in these parts. Im a little paranoid too as lots of people seem to be turning to this in England as other industries struggle |
if you plan to teach for a while, then all the work put in now will payoff in the future.
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I also realised Ive had a pocket book of grammar for the whole time Ive been teaching and not once taken it to school! Hahaha. |
try Swan's book - 'Practical English Usage' it offers a straightforward grammar that is easy to flip through. on the theme of books, try and buy some game books, as adults also enjoy good games, and some are very effective teaching tool |
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wayfarer
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:08 am Post subject: |
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What sort of stuff, specifically, is causing all this anxiety, can I ask?
As a native speaker you know the past participle of "began" is "begun", right? You know the present continuous of any verb is formed by adding "-ing"?
Spelling mistakes? Those are easily swept aside...
Even if all that was challenging, why should your students ever be allowed to catch on to it? Just fake it because they don't know sh!te. Are they high-level adult learners?
Lesson planning is a challenge, but you seem to be saying that it's the "complex technical aspects" of the language that are giving you trouble, so I'm confused. Hardly anyone here teaches at the complex technical level.
You could probably find an online grammar course... |
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rusty1983
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:38 am Post subject: |
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wayfarer wrote: |
What sort of stuff, specifically, is causing all this anxiety, can I ask?
As a native speaker you know the past participle of "began" is "begun", right? You know the present continuous of any verb is formed by adding "-ing"?
Spelling mistakes? Those are easily swept aside...
Even if all that was challenging, why should your students ever be allowed to catch on to it? Just fake it because they don't know sh!te. Are they high-level adult learners?
Lesson planning is a challenge, but you seem to be saying that it's the "complex technical aspects" of the language that are giving you trouble, so I'm confused. Hardly anyone here teaches at the complex technical level.
You could probably find an online grammar course... |
I didnt make it quite clear, I dont teach in Korea Im teaching in England and teaching adults. They are indeed high-level adult learners and have been studying for years.
It's ok though Im getting on top of it a bit more now. |
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WoBW
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Location: HBC
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Bouncing Back |
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rusty1983 wrote: |
So, Im still a fairly new teacher and seeing as I teach 8 hours a day; 6 of them via a direct method, my brain sometimes switches off and I make a mistake or forget a grammar point (or even get mixed up and teach it wrong). This has occasionally lead to the lesson becoming a total write-off and despite my skills at covering up and recovering from mistakes I still find my confidence is utterly shaken.
I blush, lose my flow, lose my vim and find that under the pressure I cant think whatsoever.
Sometimes I wonder if Ive lost the trust of my students completely. I find I am quite well respected and my classes are very entertaining and engrossing, but until I can master the more complex technical aspects of the English language fear I run the risk of more big mistakes and awkward situations.
I need to know how to bounce back quickly from big mistakes. Or even better how to not make, or how to appear not to be making them, in the first place. |
If you are serious about teaching English, try a TEFL course. I did a 120 hour course in Bangkok. It was hard work, but so useful. Only do it if you are commited, though- it's hard and pricey. |
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