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xCustomx
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 Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: Best way to help students applying to foreign language HS? |
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I'm thinking of starting an after school class for the third grade middle school students that want to apply to foreign language high schools. Does anyone know of the entry requirements? I don't want to teach grammar, and I think a Korean teacher would be better served explaining it than me. I'd rather devote time to speaking, writing and reading comprehension.
The problem is, how are students tested on their speaking? Do they usually have interviews? Should I just find a decent writing book at Gyobo? I'm kind of lost since I'm starting this from scratch and don't know much about foreign language high schools. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Teach them how to write short, argumentative essays. |
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Xuanzang
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Is there an oral interview part? Might want to give them general interview tips and teach them how to talk about themselves |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| There's an interview at some stage, but I believe usually comes after a written test. |
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xCustomx
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I have one sample test, so I know they will be tested on reading comprehension and listening. They also have to write some kind of essay or argumentative paper, and they'll have an interview at some point. |
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crosbystillsstash
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I gather by argumentative essay you guys mean persuasive ?
Sorry, I'm imagining an essay be argumentative. I'm new to it too. |
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pr1ncejeffie
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| Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Hey guys i'm in the same boat. I want to help students get into these foreign language high schools.
Anyone can recommend me any books at Gyobo(kyobo) book store? Thanks a bunch. |
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FMPJ
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:07 am Post subject: |
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So you're thinking about starting a special class with the express purpose of helping kids do something you know nothing about doing?
Who's sparkling now?  |
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xCustomx
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| FMPJ wrote: |
So you're thinking about starting a special class with the express purpose of helping kids do something you know nothing about doing?
Who's sparkling now? |
I'm trying to find the requirements. Once I know those, then I can design a course that will be suitable. I used to teach essay writing, grammar and everything else at a hagwon, but it's been a while because most middle school students can barely write a cohesive sentence, let alone a paragraph.
Specifically, what kinds of writing do they most need to know, and what are they usually asked at an interview? |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| xCustomx wrote: |
| FMPJ wrote: |
So you're thinking about starting a special class with the express purpose of helping kids do something you know nothing about doing?
Who's sparkling now? |
I'm trying to find the requirements. Once I know those, then I can design a course that will be suitable. I used to teach essay writing, grammar and everything else at a hagwon, but it's been a while because most middle school students can barely write a cohesive sentence, let alone a paragraph.
Specifically, what kinds of writing do they most need to know, and what are they usually asked at an interview? |
you'd have to find out from the school what their app process is.
I dealt with that once and the students each had to prepare a videotaped session of them speaking (reading) an essay they wrote. ok, that's all well and good except when we got to that point it was like - no way - these kids are in my class THEY didn't write this!! soooooo - yeah well they had a little "help" from the K teachers 
there's a lot involved, testing, interviews, in the case above there was the video, so it can be pretty lengthy as it's extremely competitive. the kids are under enormous pressure but I think the app is done the way it is to try and weed out those who really do plagarize or just test well and don't really know E that well.
I've seen some excellent vocabulary building books before where root words are studied and then used in sentences and all forms and structures are expanded on - that's a good place to start as virtually every high-leval K esl student I've ever dealt with had at least one of two major problems: limited vocabulary and grammatical weakness in writing. Helping to build better vocab in a way other than rote memorization can go a long way to making a better writer.
good luck and kudos for trying to help! |
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FMPJ
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| xCustomx wrote: |
| Specifically, what kinds of writing do they most need to know, and what are they usually asked at an interview? |
This is exactly the kind of stuff the prestigious schools try desperately to keep secret, and the people who stumble upon it (through dumb luck, experience, or graft, I genuinely don't know) run their own hagwons in Daechi-dong & Apgujeong and light their money cigars with rolled up torches made of money after eating meals of ground up, reconstituted money served swimming in glistening pools of cash sauce. And then they take those expensive black taxis, probably, fat cats that they are.
Seriously, though, good luck with the class. Teach them interviewing & listening and help them write thoughtful, logical, coherent, well-organized timed persuasive essays. Those skills are useful and impressive, and will help your students whether they get into the waego or not. |
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