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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: Excommunications for aborting 9 year old rape victims twins |
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Brazil church angered by child abortion
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Brazil's influential Catholic Church on Thursday raged against an abortion carried out on a nine-year-old girl who had been pregnant with twins after allegedly being raped by her stepfather.
An archbishop for the northern region where the termination was conducted, Father Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, told reporters the church was excommunicating all those responsible for the abortion: the medical team and the girl's mother.
The operation - carried out on Wednesday because of doctors' fears the slender girl might die if she carried the foetuses to term - was a crime in the eyes of the church, he said.
"God's law is above any human law. So when a human law ... is contrary to God's law, this human law has no value," Cardoso told the news television network Globo.
"The adults who approved, who carried out this abortion, will be excommunicated," said the archbishop for the Recife region.
The case has sparked off fierce debate in Brazil, where abortion is illegal except in cases of rape or if the woman's health is in danger.
The girl, who was not identified because she is a minor, was last week found to be four months' pregnant after being taken to hospital suffering stomach pains.
Officials said she told them she had suffered sexual abuse by her stepfather since the age of six.
Police said the 23-year-old stepfather also allegedly sexually abused the girl's physically handicapped 14-year-old sister.
He was arrested a week ago and is being kept in protective custody. If convicted, he faces up to 15 years in prison.
The website of Globo reported that another girl, aged 11, was being looked after in a hospital in southern Brazil after being found to be seven months' pregnant following alleged sexual abuse at the hands of her adoptive father.
That suspect, 51, turned himself into police in February.
He told officers he had had sexual relations once with his adopted daughter, at her initiative, according to the police chief for the town of Irai, Antonio Maieron.
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| "God's law is above any human law. So when a human law ... is contrary to God's law, this human law has no value," Cardoso told the news television network Globo. |
This Cardoso wacko has no clue. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Churches are private organizations and have the right to make their own rules and kick out their members if they so choose.
As a result, individuals who want to be free need governments that are separate from such organizations. People make their own laws that we follow here on Earth, even if they have no value in heaven.
Perhaps being excommunicated from a crazy church is a good thing.
Why would the mother, the doctors or this unfortunated little girl want to be members of a church that claims god wants her to risk death ?
Aborting human life is always sad, but forcing this little girl to die for the church after being raped ... What kind of god is that? |
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wesharris
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's .
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Axl Rose
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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| ontheway wrote: |
Churches are private organizations and have the right to make their own rules and kick out their members if they so choose.
As a result, individuals who want to be free need governments that are separate from such organizations. People make their own laws that we follow here on Earth, even if they have no value in heaven.
Perhaps being excommunicated from a crazy church is a good thing.
Why would the mother, the doctors or this unfortunated little girl want to be members of a church that claims god wants her to risk death ?
Aborting human life is always sad, but forcing this little girl to die for the church after being raped ... What kind of god is that? |
the Catholic Church allied itself with all fascist states in WWII, so its complete disregard for human rights, human life even, is no surprise, surely. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Axl Rose wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
Churches are private organizations and have the right to make their own rules and kick out their members if they so choose.
As a result, individuals who want to be free need governments that are separate from such organizations. People make their own laws that we follow here on Earth, even if they have no value in heaven.
Perhaps being excommunicated from a crazy church is a good thing.
Why would the mother, the doctors or this unfortunate little girl want to be members of a church that claims god wants her to risk death ?
Aborting human life is always sad, but forcing this little girl to die for the church after being raped ... What kind of god is that? |
the Catholic Church allied itself with all fascist states in WWII, so its complete disregard for human rights, human life even, is no surprise, surely. |
Nope. No surprise.
So, why would the mother or doctors want to be members anyway?
If you are part of an evil group that wants to hurt you and then they want to throw you out ... good ... why would you care? |
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