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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Location: Telluride
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject: E-2 Visa Holders Can Teach at Firms Legally |
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This must be "the news," good for the Anti-Corruption and Civil Rights Commission (ACRC). To all of those naysayers...A little optimism/hope is good for your health. Things are moving in a positive direction.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/03/116_41059.html |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Location: Telluride
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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More legal competition for F-visa holders, nice! Adult Hagwons will have to improve or go under.
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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E-2 Visa Holders Can Teach at Firms Legally
By Lee Tae-hoon
Staff Reporter
E-2 visa holders will be able to open English classes at corporations and government offices, the Anti-Corruption and Civil Rights Commission (ACRC) announced, Tuesday.
Its spokesman said that the regulations that discourage companies and government organizations from staging English classes in their own buildings will be eased.
Under the current law, E-2 visa holders, eligible for teaching a foreign language, cannot teach at corporations and government offices unless they work full time.
Even organizations with an excellent education environment, such as the Incheon International Airport Corp. and the National Assembly Research and Training Institute, have been reluctant to hire full-time E-2 visa holders, due to high costs and the lack of experience in language teaching.
Currently, the law prohibits organizations from hiring teachers on a short-term basis or outsourcing language education from private academies,
However, a director of an English-language academy in Seoul said on condition of anonymity that many private academies and brokers have long been providing English teachers to companies, with some of them not even aware that the practice has been illegal.
``Frankly, we have never told them about the regulation unless they ask. Unfortunately, we have had no other way of providing the education they need in this era of globalization," the director said.
On the plan to amend the regulation, Kim Dong-il, a senior official at the Council for Foreign Language Education, expressed his deep appreciation.
``I'm glad to hear that the government is finally making efforts to address the problem," Kim said. ``This will enhance transparency and make private-language academies compete in order to provide a more competitive and better curriculum and teachers for businesses or government bodies."
An ACRC official said the commission will continue efforts to help improve the English education system in Korea.
As of April 2008, there were 18,029 foreign-language teachers in Korea and English-language teachers accounted for 16,751, or 92.7 percent.
Forty percent of foreign-language teachers are from the United States, 29.4 percent from Canada and 9.3 percent from Britain. Others include those from South American (4.1 percent), Australia (3.9 percent) and New Zealand (3.8 percent).
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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However, a director of an English-language academy in Seoul said on condition of anonymity that many private academies and brokers have long been providing English teachers to companies, with some of them not even aware that the practice has been illegal.
``Frankly, we have never told them about the regulation unless they ask. Unfortunately, we have had no other way of providing the education they need in this era of globalization," the director said.
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They didn't know it was illegal. SURE, RIGHT.  |
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mike123_ca

Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Location: wandering between Chonan and Asan
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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The problem is Ministry of Justice and Immigration have serverly restricted the employment E2 visa holders. This increases the cost of English education.
Until now, only F series visa holders have the right to work freelance. Korean Govt corperations and private companies want in-house classes, but under the current rules, the costs are too high. So, let's change the rules again.
Govt and business get access to more teachers. They should be lowering their expenses due to the greater supply of teachers.
This could be a big change to the hagwon business if they can outsource their teachers. |
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gteacher
Joined: 24 May 2007 Location: Ghost in the machine
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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mike123_ca wrote: |
The problem is Ministry of Justice and Immigration have serverly restricted the employment E2 visa holders. This increases the cost of English education.
Until now, only F series visa holders have the right to work freelance. Korean Govt corperations and private companies want in-house classes, but under the current rules, the costs are too high. So, let's change the rules again.
Govt and business get access to more teachers. They should be lowering their expenses due to the greater supply of teachers.
This could be a big change to the hagwon business if they can outsource their teachers. |
I believe what they are going to do is allow companies to hire their own E2's versus outsourcing. So while this will give people better oppertunities, it will in no way grant any more visa mobility.
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Chet Wautlands

Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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wylies99 wrote: |
Forty percent of foreign-language teachers are from the United States, 29.4 percent from Canada and 9.3 percent from Britain. Others include those from South American (4.1 percent), Australia (3.9 percent) and New Zealand (3.8 percent).
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Is this right? Surely they mean South Africa. I've met one Spanish teacher here... |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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I second that, I've met quite a few South Africans teaching here, but not too many South Americans. |
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mike123_ca

Joined: 12 Mar 2003 Location: wandering between Chonan and Asan
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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I believe what they are going to do is allow companies to hire their own E2's versus outsourcing. So while this will give people better oppertunities, it will in no way grant any more visa mobility. |
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Under the current law, E-2 visa holders, eligible for teaching a foreign language, cannot teach at corporations and government offices unless they work full time.
Even organizations with an excellent education environment, such as the Incheon International Airport Corp. and the National Assembly Research and Training Institute, have been reluctant to hire full-time E-2 visa holders, due to high costs and the lack of experience in language teaching. |
It's very expensive to hire an E2 visa holder full time. Most business companies prefer hiring consultants ( or in our case English teachers). The only establisments that have E2's are Hagwon's and public schools.
I do see free-lancing to corperations being legal. When this happens, I hope the average Korean will ask "why" corperations can have private English lessons, but Koreans themselves can't hire teachers privately. |
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T-J

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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gteacher wrote: |
mike123_ca wrote: |
The problem is Ministry of Justice and Immigration have serverly restricted the employment E2 visa holders. This increases the cost of English education.
Until now, only F series visa holders have the right to work freelance. Korean Govt corperations and private companies want in-house classes, but under the current rules, the costs are too high. So, let's change the rules again.
Govt and business get access to more teachers. They should be lowering their expenses due to the greater supply of teachers.
This could be a big change to the hagwon business if they can outsource their teachers. |
I believe what they are going to do is allow companies to hire their own E2's versus outsourcing. So while this will give people better oppertunities, it will in no way grant any more visa mobility. |
While it will allow companies to outright hire E-2 visa holders,most can't support a full time teacher. The benefit with this decision comes from the opening of the market. First step is to make it legal, so there are more opportunities to teach. Hagwons will be much more willing to sub-contract. This is beneficial all involved.
Is it visa mobility? Not yet, but it is a step in the right direction.
It's all about taking steps in the right direction and working in a way that doesn't make unnecessary enemies. If ATEK had or would look for opportunities such as this to open cracks, and promote a better environment for ALL without putting some groups at risk, it would be an organization worth supporting.
Kudos to the ACRC. |
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sarbonn

Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still confused as to how this would work, and when. |
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