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Devil's Harvest



Joined: 31 Oct 2004
Location: House of Knives

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:57 am    Post subject: Three Strikes and your Intertubes are tied Reply with quote

The good old ROK is adopting the '3 strikes' plan to curb filesharing. Makes sense. All of this P2P filesharing is seriously hurting the bottom line of the good people who openly hawk pirated movies on the street.

I'm sure Korean ISPs will be thrilled at the idea of policing the stupernet on behalf of government and the RIAA.

MoJ: "We want you to set up and pay for departments in your companies that will track these dastardly hooligans, and then we want you to deprive yourselves of customers and profit by cutting off their internet service. Of course, you don't have to prove that filesharing of copyrighted material was actually done by the customer using that IP address. That would be very inconvienient for all involved (except for the customer). Nope; a simple allegation from a party who claims infringement occured is all ya need."

Korean ISPs: "Sounds great! We'd love to help. We'll start by looking hard at the internet traffic at the offices and personal residences of the members of the ROK National Assembly..."
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GreenlightmeansGO



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

May the lulz ensue.
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ryoga013



Joined: 23 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but I needs me stories.... Sad Sad Crying or Very sad

Seriously doubt they would do much about it....
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_sof_pir_rat-crime-software-piracy-rate

S.Korea 43%
Ireland 34%
South Africa 34%
Canada 33%
Australia 28%
New Zealand 22%
US 20%
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Robot_Teacher



Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Robotting Around the World

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allow me movie rentals and I'll pay! Not once in the states did I download torrents. This is something I learned in Korea. Many people around the world download American TV and movies, becuase it's not available to them. There is no global downloads rental services, but yet they bitch that hooligans are stealing movies, software, and magazines. I don't see any news stands selling English books, mags, and newspapers nor any software and tech support in English represented by American companies so they lost out on money making opportunities in the global economy.

American providers like Blockbuster and Netflix don't serve overseas markets; not even to American expats living abroad who have US dollar accounts to pay for service.

How can they expect us to live alone in a foreign country with no access to media material from home? How can they sell said English materials to millions around the world wanting it if they don't enter global markets to sell it? If American companies want to make money in the global economy off of producing movies, software, books, and mags, they need to go about it in a different way. Since they didn't deliver sales, service, marketing, and tech support to the world, the world figured out how to steal their material and are capitalizing off American inventions and ideas. Really, American media and entertainment already lost where they didn't go global with sales and service while their material goes global.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I'll have to get a new ISP account. I have been creating a wonderful library of 800 megabyte classic movies that I will watch over and over again. I'd like to collect maybe 500 movies. Classics, animated, Oscar winners, by actor (I'll watch anything with Jack Nicholson.) etc...
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robot_Teacher wrote:


American providers like Blockbuster and Netflix don't serve overseas markets; not even to American expats living abroad who have US dollar accounts to pay for service.

How can they expect us to live alone in a foreign country with no access to media material from home? .


Because they didn't ask us to go to a foreign country in the first place. Why are they responsible for providing us with media material?
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Robot_Teacher wrote:


American providers like Blockbuster and Netflix don't serve overseas markets; not even to American expats living abroad who have US dollar accounts to pay for service.

How can they expect us to live alone in a foreign country with no access to media material from home? .


Because they didn't ask us to go to a foreign country in the first place. Why are they responsible for providing us with media material?


If the media have no interest or responsiblity in providing the material, why should they care if we steal it?
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wayfarer



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beej wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Robot_Teacher wrote:


American providers like Blockbuster and Netflix don't serve overseas markets; not even to American expats living abroad who have US dollar accounts to pay for service.

How can they expect us to live alone in a foreign country with no access to media material from home? .


Because they didn't ask us to go to a foreign country in the first place. Why are they responsible for providing us with media material?


If the media have no interest or responsiblity in providing the material, why should they care if we steal it?


"Stealing" is a misnomer anyway, because there's no loss of property on behalf of the "aggrieved" party. And I've heard all the arguments, but I've yet to be convinced that it's any different or worse than recording a show or film from your TV.

The number of films and sound recordings released each year continues to go up, not down. The industry is doing just fine.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

""Stealing" is a misnomer anyway, because there's no loss of property on behalf of the "aggrieved" party."

I'm no lawyer, but I think if you reduce someones revenue by co-opting their market, then it's a kind of stealing. I don't think stealing is the right word though...
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many jurisdictions call it "theft of intellectual property" or something similar. Personally, I think it should be included under "theft of services."
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nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: noksapyeong

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good thing I do all my torrenting at school. I don't know what I'd do if they cut off my internet at home.

Besides, I get something like 5M uploads and downloads while I'm school!
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get busted three times you're a bit of a chump anyway. First time, sure you didnt know any better. Second time you use some kind of IP defender and join private trackers, but get careless because you really wanted Shrek 6 and got if from thepiratebay. Third time, you deserve it.

Intellectual property.. nothing intellectual about hollywood. As for musicians, if people really like them that much they will see them live and most likely buy merch and the original CD. Anyone who enjoys defending film producers and record labels just enjoys being fleeced.
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years back the Korean govt. tried to a "no piracy" campaign in all city govt. offices. It was stopped after they realized that they would have to shut down 80% of their PCs. Very Happy
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saw6436



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, ROK

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^LOL, I remember that one. Love the incompetence. Reminds of when the "Korea Wave" started and the K govt' was protesting to the Chinese Govt' ove the pirating of Korean movies and TV programs in China. Funnay funny stuff.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saw6436 wrote:
^^LOL, I remember that one. Love the incompetence. Reminds of when the "Korea Wave" started and the K govt' was protesting to the Chinese Govt' ove the pirating of Korean movies and TV programs in China. Funnay funny stuff.


They should feel honored enough that there's an audience/demand enough for Korean movies and tv shows to encourage piracy.
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