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hansil hac-1100 air cleaner question

 
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dragstar



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: hansil hac-1100 air cleaner question Reply with quote

I just got the below air cleaner second hand. There was no filter fitted to it so I ordered one from gmarket. The problem is that I'm not sure is fitted correctly as there seems to be the same amount of weekly dust accumulating in my small apt. The filter is white with a black course mesh fitted to it. Also, they provided some thin white sheets of filter paper with it as well. Currently, I have the black part fitted to the back portion of the unit closest to the exhaust fan with the white side pointed out (visible) then I have a thin sheet of the throw away "paper" part on top of the filter with the plastic part that goes over the filter at the front over that...make any sense? If anyone has this type of filter I hope you can respond with some advice. I think it's fitted correctly but why all the dust?

Thanks in advance for any help!
http://www.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=101553099&pos_shop_cd=SH&pos_class_cd=111111111&pos_class_kind=T&keyword_order=hansil+hac-1100&search_keyword=hansil%20hac-1100
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turn the filter around. I have the same unit. The black side is supposed to be facing out. That's the charcoal side. Put your paper piece over that, and then the big plastic front.

What you're doing is the opposite, and you're probably blowing charcoal dust out into your apartment!

Air cleaners remove the really fine dust -- not the larger pieces which fall straight down. You still need to dust and clean your home.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought so...thanks bass! That seems much better. No worry's w/ dust my wife cleans daily and we do a full clean Sunday mornings. I kinda thought I had it in backwards.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change the papers and wash the pre-filter every several weeks when needed. We buy our filters from www.oclaire.co.kr . We have to call the guy and tell him what unit we have. I did something stupid and figured I'd try not using the paper filters this time. It clogged my filter up with crap, and reduced life by over 70%. Need to get a new one.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filters are useless. If you want clean air, buy an air-washer. Have two of them in my home and WHAT A DIFFERENCE they make during bad dust days... (I spin rollers indoors with no problems at all).

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheChickenLover wrote:
Filters are useless. If you want clean air, buy an air-washer. Have two of them in my home and WHAT A DIFFERENCE they make during bad dust days... (I spin rollers indoors with no problems at all).

Chicken




Been looking at one of those at Costco and Homeplus for about 260,000 won. We grew up with a very large version of that in the home. It had a porous blanket on a belt that would dip into the water and back out again. A fan would blow air on it. It serves as a humidifier, too.

The thing that's been holding me back on getting an air washer are all of the negative notes on Amazon about cleaning them. Here is an example:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R31XFYT963CWVD/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R31XFYT963CWVD

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"The first problem with this unit is that the "air washing" capability results in the machine getting dirty... but unlike almost every other kind of humidifier this dirt is everywhere on the machine - throughout the disks, all over the fan, all inside surfaces. On the inside surfaces (which have lots of hard to clean nooks) this dirt is similar to a sticky wax and on the wet surfaces its more like a slime. I spend about 30 minutes struggling to clean it each time I try before I feel I've done an OK job. The Venta cleaner additive doesn't work that well on the disks, doesn't do anything for the waxy sludge on the housing because it doesn't touch it, and the unit has so many difficult to clean parts that it's nearly impossible to get all the dirt. I even tried putting the non-electrical parts in the dishwasher which doesn't work either. "



There are several comments like this among all of the air washer models:

http://www.amazon.com/AIR-O-SWISS-2055-Ionizing-Washer-Humidifier/product-reviews/B0000TBASM/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3_cm_cr_acr_img?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

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The humidification discs seem difficult to clean and not too durable. They will crack if I drop them. That is a given. They have slits, grooves, and crevices built into them. I am not looking forward to the prospect of using a brush to get all the debris out. No wonder Air O Swiss sells the humidification discs as a spare part.




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Keeping the tank full, and the water and discs clean, is a major chore. You start to wonder how much it can be cleaning your air, when the water turns green after a couple of days.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, starting to sound like airwashers suck:

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/home/2008/02/venta-airwasher.html

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The Consumer Reports take. The claim of ridding the air of particles as small as 10 microns is kind of a nonstarter: A 10-micron or larger particle is so big that it's unlikely to remain aloft in the air for long.

Both models we tested proved no better at removing dust and smoke than no air purifier at all. They were, however, efficient at adding moisture to the room. Note that they lack a sensor and controls to let you set a humidity level. Without those features, humidity could rise too high and contribute to mold and mildew growth. What�s more, the Venta-Airwashers are pricey and require you to buy water additive and cleaning solution�a cost of about $90 per year.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CONSUMER REPORTS FINDS FILTER-BASED AIR PURIFIERS ARE BETTER CHOICE FOR CONSUMERS

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cu-press-room/pressroom/archive/2007/12/0712-eng0712air.htm?resultPageIndex=1&resultIndex=7&searchTerm=HEPA%20air%20filter
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