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Yu_Bum_suk
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 Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject: In case you think it's 'Only the waegook who...' |
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We had a new (Korean) teacher come to our school this week who's replacing one who's getting promoted. Now, I don't think this promotion was a sudden or unexpected thing and I'm sure the school had adequate time to prepare, but...
They have her sleeping up in the dormatory with the girls. Housing is usually something my school works into the temp. teachers' contracts, but that isn't exactly 'housing'. Oh well, she doesn't have to worry about the lack of cooking facilities as she can eat our school cafeteria slop three times a day just like the students.
Everyone else has their own computer at their desk provided by the school but she has to bring in her laptop. The shelf space on her desk is all full of other teachers' books. Yesterday I took the liberty of moving a bunch of the other teachers' shit off her desk and putting it somewhere else so she'd have more than two square feet of desk space, as she was evidently too timid to do so herself.
Everyone has a brand-new comfy office swivel chair at their desk except her.
Hopefully the school will get her better sorted out eventually, but if you think this type of thing is 'foreigner treatment' think again, and if you're spared of it, especially when you start a new job, count your blessings. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Well this settles it: Korean bureaucracy can be as slow and inefficient when dealing with Koreans as with foreigners. |
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bogey666
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Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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out of curiosity... and not to hijack your thread
but what exactly in terms of qualifications does a Korean teacher need in a hagwon?
and why would any teachers who are otherwise govt certified work for a hogwan instead of the public school system? |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| bogey666 wrote: |
out of curiosity... and not to hijack your thread
but what exactly in terms of qualifications does a Korean teacher need in a hagwon?
and why would any teachers who are otherwise govt certified work for a hogwan instead of the public school system? |
This *is* at a public school.
As an aside, a hagwon teacher needs a degree in a related field, but some of them don't even have that. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| bogey666 wrote: |
out of curiosity... and not to hijack your thread
but what exactly in terms of qualifications does a Korean teacher need in a hagwon?
and why would any teachers who are otherwise govt certified work for a hogwan instead of the public school system? |
They need to have a teachers cert. plus a blank criminal record, according to MoE. |
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Ukon
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| I'm guessing she's a temp? |
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moosehead
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| what kind of public school has a dormitory? |
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John_ESL_White
Joined: 12 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| moosehead wrote: |
| what kind of public school has a dormitory? |
lots of specialty PSs have dorms... esp., foreign language HSs.
Anyway, sounds like anywhere else in the world... the newbie gets treated like crap. Your new KT is on the bottom and has to work her way up... same as in the west... except, we'd give her a nice chair in the states... can't vouch for the Candia or the UK though.... |
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Zutronius
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Suncheon
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| moosehead wrote: |
| what kind of public school has a dormitory? |
The boys high school my friend works at here in Mokpo also has dorms. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| moosehead wrote: |
| what kind of public school has a dormitory? |
Lots of public (or 'private-public', like mine) high schools in rural areas have dormitories for the students who live further away. If you're going to be at school until 9/10/11PM and have to be back at 7:30PM there's hardly any point in going home to sleep. |
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semi-fly
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject: Re: In case you think it's 'Only the waegook who...' |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
We had a new (Korean) teacher come to our school this week who's replacing one who's getting promoted. Now, I don't think this promotion was a sudden or unexpected thing and I'm sure the school had adequate time to prepare, but...
They have her sleeping up in the dormatory with the girls. Housing is usually something my school works into the temp. teachers' contracts, but that isn't exactly 'housing'. Oh well, she doesn't have to worry about the lack of cooking facilities as she can eat our school cafeteria slop three times a day just like the students.
Everyone else has their own computer at their desk provided by the school but she has to bring in her laptop. The shelf space on her desk is all full of other teachers' books. Yesterday I took the liberty of moving a bunch of the other teachers' shit off her desk and putting it somewhere else so she'd have more than two square feet of desk space, as she was evidently too timid to do so herself.
Everyone has a brand-new comfy office swivel chair at their desk except her.
Hopefully the school will get her better sorted out eventually, but if you think this type of thing is 'foreigner treatment' think again, and if you're spared of it, especially when you start a new job, count your blessings. |
Why would they need to work anything into a temporary contract if she's replacing the teacher getting promoted? Is she just a substitute teacher employed until the school is able to find a permanent replacement? In either case why would the school be putting her up in a dorm room to begin with, this seems a little strange considering she's a Korean national. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: In case you think it's 'Only the waegook who...' |
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| semi-fly wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
We had a new (Korean) teacher come to our school this week who's replacing one who's getting promoted. Now, I don't think this promotion was a sudden or unexpected thing and I'm sure the school had adequate time to prepare, but...
They have her sleeping up in the dormatory with the girls. Housing is usually something my school works into the temp. teachers' contracts, but that isn't exactly 'housing'. Oh well, she doesn't have to worry about the lack of cooking facilities as she can eat our school cafeteria slop three times a day just like the students.
Everyone else has their own computer at their desk provided by the school but she has to bring in her laptop. The shelf space on her desk is all full of other teachers' books. Yesterday I took the liberty of moving a bunch of the other teachers' shit off her desk and putting it somewhere else so she'd have more than two square feet of desk space, as she was evidently too timid to do so herself.
Everyone has a brand-new comfy office swivel chair at their desk except her.
Hopefully the school will get her better sorted out eventually, but if you think this type of thing is 'foreigner treatment' think again, and if you're spared of it, especially when you start a new job, count your blessings. |
Why would they need to work anything into a temporary contract if she's replacing the teacher getting promoted? Is she just a substitute teacher employed until the school is able to find a permanent replacement? In either case why would the school be putting her up in a dorm room to begin with, this seems a little strange considering she's a Korean national. |
She's on a one-year contract. And her (parents') home is almost two hours away and I don't think she drives; at least I'm quite certain she doesn't have a car. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I think this is pretty standard for newbie teachers, especially in rural areas. I used to work in a rural area, the school owned/rented an apartment and 2 new teachers lived there for the whole year. They were new grads and lived at least an hours drive from their homes. I was told, they are given an option, live in a school provided place for free, or find your own place on your own coin. |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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I've been on this board for a long time,
and this is the first time I've ever seen an OP express concern for anyone but himself. |
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