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Olivencia



Joined: 08 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:17 am    Post subject: Is it legal or not? Reply with quote

Want to bring my wife and unadopted child (grammar school age) to Korea. They are from the Philippines. From what I heard immigration won't let my child to come with me - no prob with the wife.
Was thinking...if I enrolled my child at an international school in Korea would immigration allow her to come? I was thinking of either teaching at the same school or one nearby.

Any advice?

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Olivencia
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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unadopted child


What the heck is that? Confused Did you kidnap the child? What's the story?
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Olivencia



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife was a single mom before I met and married her.
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lifeinkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have to adopt a child in that case, LOL, "her child" is good enough. My "unadopted" biological sister would agree, LOL.
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Olivencia



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it true immigration will not let our child in though? That is, being a native speaker (American) I would have no problem nor would my wife even thoug she is Filipina but my unadopted child would. I hope I am wrong about that but that is what I think is the case.

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lifeinkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why you use the word "unadopted" (1. not adopted: not adopted by new parents - http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_561511245/unadopted.html )

There is no need to call the child adopted or not because one person is the biological parent, your wife. It might be true that YOU can't bring the child, but I don't see why your wife, the child's biological mother, couldn't bring him to Korea as a dependent.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There very well could be a legal reason why the mother cannot bring the child to another country. There is, after all, another parent concerned and that parent also has parental rights unless those rights were terminated by a court.

By the way, OP, the term you're looking for isn't unadopted, it's stepchild.
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lifeinkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but if there is another parent around, which do you think would have a greater chance of getting legal authority, the biological mother or the stepfather?

That's the term we use in English, when you marry someone and they have a child we call them either "stepson" or "stepdaughter", not "unadopted child".
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Cerriowen



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While it's akward to call her an unadopted child, perhaps a "stepchild I haven't adopted" may make more sense.

And that's a perfectly normal situation... Father and mother split, but father retains legal authority over the child, or maybe the new parent just hasn't chosen to legally adopt the child.

The guy has a right to bring his wife along, but not necissarily a child that isn't his. She gets "tag along" rights with her husband, but her child doesn't.

I don't know the answer to your question, but I'd suggest calling the embassy. They should know.
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Draz



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
Yes, but if there is another parent around, which do you think would have a greater chance of getting legal authority, the biological mother or the stepfather?

That's the term we use in English, when you marry someone and they have a child we call them either "stepson" or "stepdaughter", not "unadopted child".


When you marry someone with children, you sometimes have the option to formally adopt them. The other biological parent has to agree so it isn't always possible. Legally he is only married to the mother and doesn't have many rights to the child. The mother would be on a dependent visa and wouldn't be able to sponsor anyone.

Probably. Sorry, don't know the laws on this in Korea. It is a valid question though.

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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
Yes, but if there is another parent around, which do you think would have a greater chance of getting legal authority, the biological mother or the stepfather?

When it comes to taking a child to another country, there's more involved than just which parent has legal custody of the child.
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lifeinkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
lifeinkorea wrote:
Yes, but if there is another parent around, which do you think would have a greater chance of getting legal authority, the biological mother or the stepfather?

When it comes to taking a child to another country, there's more involved than just which parent has legal custody of the child.


Show me then 1 case, just 1 case, where a stepfather has or had more rights to their stepdaughter than the daughter's biological mother, given both parties (stepfather and biological mother) have an equal history (meaning, the biological mother wasn't abusive or something).

I am sure, hands down 100%, the biological mother would have more rights. If there is an issue in bringing the child, it is NOT the stepfather, it is for the mother to deal with. The stepfather can only play a supporting role in this.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not discussing the stepfather having more rights than the biological mother. The two parents I referred to above are, and I thought it was obvious, the biological parents. I'm simply stating that for international travel, there is more involved than simply having custody of the child. For instance, depending on the court decree, the biological mother of the child may be prohibited from taking a child out of the country without the permission of the biological father of the child.

Also, the "supporting role" the stepfather in this instance would play is as the sponsor of the child.
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lifeinkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not discussing the stepfather having more rights than the biological mother. The two parents I referred to above are, and I thought it was obvious, the biological parents.


If you read the original post, it clearly doesn't state that as the intention. Plus, this person is posting in the ESL section instead of the mother posting perhaps on a Filipino forum about her daughter. Regardless how you cut it, the mother has to come into play here.

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From what I heard immigration won't let my child to come with me


MY CHILD????? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

It should have said something like, "My wife is trying to bring my stepdaughter with us to Korea". Then from there, maybe the courts have some requirements where the stepfather could help out. That is not what is happening here. The stepfather here is clearly through their words claiming more rights than they have over this child. This should send a red flag to someone out there to investigate this matter.

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Also, the "supporting role" the stepfather in this instance would play is as the sponsor of the child.


Then show me one case, just one, where the stepfather sponsored a child (it is the COMPANY that is sponsoring the stepfather).
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Olivencia



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am so used to saying "my child". Thing is my wife and I have been married for almost two years now and we are on are way to being able for me to legally adopt.
I wrote "my child" out of love that I have for my family.

Thanks for your information that you supplied - and to everyone else.

Olivencia
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