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Jane



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Shame on you, Wall Street English Reply with quote

On the way to work this morning on the subway (Line 1) I look up and see this ad for Wall Street English.

It's a mock picture of Koreans in a boardroom with this girl with stick pointing to a chart and saying to her boss who is sitting at a table:"How do you think about this project, Mr.Lee.", or something to this effect. The boss is sort of cowering because he's embarrassed he can't speak English, and says:" Umm, yes. Yes. Yes."

How do you think about....!!!

This is an English language school and they can't get their one sentence on an advertisement right.

I don't know about you, but I'm getting awefully tired of my native language being bastardized more often then not.

Shame on you, Wall Street English.
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Jeff's Cigarettes



Joined: 27 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I THINK HE LOST HIS TRAIN OF THOUGHT AS HE WAS DAYDREAMING ABOUT HER HITTING HIM W/ THE STICK ON HIS RUMP.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Shame on you, Wall Street English Reply with quote

Jane wrote:

I don't know about you, but I'm getting awefully tired of my native language being bastardized more often then not.

Shame on you, Wall Street English.


Took me a year or so, but I got over it. At this point, my expectations are so low that rather than being angry when they *beep* up, I'm impressed when they get it right.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So... the hot chick is the project....?
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Shame on you, Wall Street English Reply with quote

Jane wrote:
On the way to work this morning on the subway (Line 1) I look up and see this ad for Wall Street English.

It's a mock picture of Koreans in a boardroom with this girl with stick pointing to a chart and saying to her boss who is sitting at a table:"How do you think about this project, Mr.Lee.", or something to this effect. The boss is sort of cowering because he's embarrassed he can't speak English, and says:" Umm, yes. Yes. Yes."

How do you think about....!!!

This is an English language school and they can't get their one sentence on an advertisement right.

I don't know about you, but I'm getting awefully tired of my native language being bastardized more often then not.

Shame on you, Wall Street English.


Im no grammar nazi, but if you are going to complain about your native language being "bastardized" you shouldnt make any mistakes yourself. It should be "more often THAN not."
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.res.ipsa.loquitor



Joined: 16 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Shame on you, Wall Street English Reply with quote

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I don't know about you, but I'm getting awefully tired of my native language being bastardized more often then not.


Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

*Removes small black mustache and returns to his place in volume 17 of the complete Oxford English Dictionary.*


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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why they don't hire people to proofread this stuff. I guess proofreading is an acknowledgment of imperfection, which causes a crippling loss of face.
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Pojogae



Joined: 30 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkelly80 wrote:
I guess proofreading is an acknowledgment of imperfection, which causes a crippling loss of face.


I really think this is the case. Especially considering that these businesses are swarming with native speakers and all they have to do is walk into an adjacent room and ask some dude "Is this sentence alright?"

I've been reading through some KTO brochures lately and they are full of mistakes too; not terrible ones, but enough to make you wonder if there might be some money to made convincing these people to get the job done properly.


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jkamphof



Joined: 12 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lack of proofreading blows my mind, just last week our school published a new ad for the March session in our city and they handed it out to all the foreign teachers AFTER it was published...we counted 10 horrific spelling and grammar mistakes.

Also a few years ago my school had a big speech contest which had hundreds of kids from around Korea the massive banner for the event said "Welcome to the Enlgish Speech Contest" The spelt English wrong and not until the foreign staff showed up had any Korean noticed...

I'm sure nearly everyone has a million stories about this but I would never assume my Korean is good enough to avoid spell check....God, my english is bad enough to avoid a spell check!!!
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't they losing money? Probably first cut was to the proof reading department. The other foreigners who are getting screwed over simply didnt give a shit.
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R-Seoul



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of Asian arrogance/fear of loss of face; I'm sure many of you have taken the maglev high-speed train in Shanghai. What does the pre-recorded on board announcement say? "Dear Passenger, welcome to take our maglev train....".
Just think of the millions of dollars and countless years spent on constructing the worlds fastest train a showpiece for the new China and then not to take the 2 minutes to ask a native speaker to quickly proofread the English which every foreign visitor will hear whilst on-board the damn thing. It boggles the mind, it really does.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
Aren't they losing money? Probably first cut was to the proof reading department. The other foreigners who are getting screwed over simply didnt give a shit.


I can imagine;

'We letting you go. Please, next week move out!'
'Huh?'
'You no good. Many students complain. Oh, and check the sentence. It ok?'
'Well...., it's fine'

Who was it that advertised 'Let's speaKING English!', was that Wall Street too?
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freshking



Joined: 07 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone ever had the pleasure to read the Korea Kid's Times? I read it once a week with my students and it's always a good laugh. The "editor" they have at that paper is a joke.
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Dysupes



Joined: 24 May 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's important not to forget that another significant reason these mistakes happen is not only due to the freakish desire to avoid a loss of face but also the fact that the boss decided a month or two before that he might need flyers and then deigned to inform his staff of that fact 2 to 3 days before the flyers went out. Also, some of these bosses write the damn things themselves to show their workers how they don't fool around and of course this means that the workers are forbidden from pointing out any errors in said text, culturally speaking.

jkamphof said:

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Also a few years ago my school had a big speech contest which had hundreds of kids from around Korea the massive banner for the event said "Welcome to the Enlgish Speech Contest" The spelt English wrong and not until the foreign staff showed up had any Korean noticed...


In all likelihood MANY Koreans noticed and just chose not to say anything for in saying anything about it they would cause a loss of face for the host of the event/school board, etc. It's MUCH more important to ignore those mistakes that make anyone other than an Asian person cringe..
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anybody notice the fact that the young women was the boss of a bunch of ajoessi perhaps signifying a wider acceptance of women in higher roles in the work place rather than being regulated to pink collar jobs?

Also, Wall street english like many companies probaly outsource advertisement and graphic design to third party companies....where they will be handled by all the art kids you knew in high school who sucked at every subject except art. Laughing
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