Korean Job Discussion Forums

[asams]

Who else thinks the Korean manager's decision to pitch to Ichiro, one of the best hitters ever in baseball, was typical Korean thought. No logic whatsoever. They had a free base and 2 outs, if the manager had thought it through he would've walked Ichiro to get to the next hitter.

As soon as Ichiro came up I called him getting a hit and effectively ending the game.

[pidgin]

Who the hell is Ichiro?

No, typical Korean is suddenly giving a shit just because it's "in season."

[Gimpokid]

At least the didn't bean him.

[endo]

I agree with the idea that logic has its difficulties within this nation however I also think it kind of a stretch to relate it to the baseball game.

The Koreans already won the gold in the Olympics and played extremely well in this tournament.

[Xuanzang]

This country would make a Vulcan`s head spin but I dont think there`s any relationship there. You intentionally walk him and then the next guy could hit a double. Must have felt his pitcher was good enough to get Ichiro out. I dont know anything about Team Korea so I cant say if the matchup was favorable or what.

[Knucklehead]

Nah, I don't think so. I think the pitcher just made a mistake.

I didn't watch the game but (correct me if I'm wrong) when Ichiro came to the plate there were runners on first and third. No way you are intentionally walking anyone in that situation.

The pitcher got ahead of Ichiro 1 and 2, and then the basrunner on first stole second. From what I understand the manager told the pitcher to pitch around Ichiro but he didn't. I think the pitcher thought he could get him out - perfectly understandable when you already have two strikes on him.

Also, coming into this game, Ichiro was only batting around .220.

On a side note, this, from the Korea Times, made me laugh.

"Long-time rivals South Korea and Japan ― the so-called Yankees and Red Sox of international baseball"

Er, who is saying that?

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/sports/2009/03/136_41876.html

[Ya-ta Boy]

It's typical of all white boys to make generalizations.

[iknownothing]

actually the manager had signaled to the pitcher to walk ichiro but the pitcher either didn't catch the signal or didn't listen

[newteacher]

[ernie]

i was wondering the same thing myself: WTF??? why are they pitching to ichiro, one of the best contact hitters in the game, in a tie game with 2 outs and first base open? this is EXACTLY who japan wants at the plate in this situation! they could at least get a lefty pitcher in there! ooops too late, 2 runs are in. korea is cooked like jigay.

i don't understand how the players (the catcher, not the pitcher, receives signals from the dugout!) could have 'missed the sign' here. do teams actually have a 'sign' for the intentional walk? if i'm a manager, my 'sign' for the intentional walk is me yelling WALK THIS GUY! what's the need for secrecy in an intentional walk situation?

the fact that the manager blames his players is a sign of a total douchebaggery. he should be fired immediately. how many pitches were thrown to ichiro before he got a hit? more than one? why didn't the manager run out to the mound or scream his head off after 'the sign' went unnoticed? i bet the pitcher was scratching his head wondering why he was supposed to be pitching to the best hitter on the team.

i understand hindsight is 20/20, and the next guy could have drove in the winning run just as easily. but in such a well-played, strategic game this kind of bonehead mistake is pretty disappointing.

[hauwande]

dont understand all this talk of walking...

there were two people on base already, you're a world class pitcher, the batter is two strikes out already.

you got to back yourself to get the third strike on the guy. if you walk him, there are 3 people on base now instead of 2 and the new guy has a clean slate - three strikes to work with.

if they cant back their best pitcher, obviously one of the best in the world, to get the third strike then maybe they should not put him there in the first place?

thats how i see it anyway...

[ernie]

because losing by 3 runs instead of 2 makes no difference, and pitching to a less dangerous hitter when the championship is on the line makes a big difference.

[harlowethrombey]

[Ilsanman]

Hindsight is 20/20.

Give it up.

[ernie]

yep, but a bad decision is still a bad decision. the manager didn't do his job.