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Is this a good deal?

 
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Forbidden-Donut



Joined: 17 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Is this a good deal? Reply with quote

I was just offered a 'part time' position, which doesn't really seem to be very part-time.
It's for 3.0 mil/month to teach from 1:30-7:00, 7 40-min classes per day. The prep work is minimal. The salary sounds good, but thats 27.5 hours teaching per week, which is just under the usual full-time 30 hours/week.
So I'd be working close to full time, but have to pay my own rent (in Busan about 350/month) and health care, and don't get a flight home or severance. With those deductions taken into account, I'm not sure if this sounds all that great.

Of course, I could be wrong, and this could be a good deal...what do you all think?
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John_ESL_White



Joined: 12 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you in country or out of country?

What are your qualifications? first timer?

Where are you from?

Are you legally allowed to teach here?


Depends....

I would never take it, but I have a Phillipno friend who would jump on it because they have friuends in Busan and could live free.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want those things in your contract (apartment, severance, etc...) for 2 reasons. One, you can use them as negotiating conditions later on. If you give them up now, the school will just take advantage of you more later on. Also, when you refuse to do extra work, they won't have any reason not to fire you. If you paid for an apartment, you will probably have to put up a security deposit with the landlord. Now you have additional money you could be losing if they fire you. If the school gets the apartment, none of your money is tied up.

If you can get your own place without paying a lot upfront, and your contract were month to month instead of a year contract, then you could leave for a month and come back to work at another school if problems came up.

Right now, the offer you presented has potential problems which I wouldn't want to get involved in.
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Forbidden-Donut



Joined: 17 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to answer your questions:

-I'm in-country
-been teaching here for 1 1/2 years
-I am legal to teach here
-They offered me $5k in key money
-It will be a 5 or 6 month temporary contract, they've had trouble finding a full-time teacher and I said I will work for them until August/Sept.
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chevro1et



Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Location: Busan, ROK

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you dont want it, PM me.
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antoniothegreat



Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like BS to me. sounds like they have a full time job and just call it part time so that they can get out of paying your flight and severance pay.

i wouldnt do it, unless it is a second job.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

antoniothegreat wrote:
sounds like BS to me. sounds like they have a full time job and just call it part time so that they can get out of paying your flight and severance pay.

It's full time but it's short term, and he's already in country. It's a decent enough deal. In fact, it's about what my first contract looked like, if I were to line-out all the perks.
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Forbidden-Donut



Joined: 17 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump, any other opinions out there?
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject: Re: Is this a good deal? Reply with quote

Forbidden-Donut wrote:
I was just offered a 'part time' position, which doesn't really seem to be very part-time.
It's for 3.0 mil/month to teach from 1:30-7:00, 7 40-min classes per day. The prep work is minimal. The salary sounds good, but thats 27.5 hours teaching per week, which is just under the usual full-time 30 hours/week.
So I'd be working close to full time, but have to pay my own rent (in Busan about 350/month) and health care, and don't get a flight home or severance. With those deductions taken into account, I'm not sure if this sounds all that great.

Of course, I could be wrong, and this could be a good deal...what do you all think?


(emphasis mine)

That does not sound better than what you are giving up.(if you're who I think you are).

BTW- did the current employer make any concessions?
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