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Elementary vs. Middle vs. High in Korean Public Schools
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ladybaby



Joined: 24 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Elementary vs. Middle vs. High in Korean Public Schools Reply with quote

Hi.. Very Happy

I'm planning to teach in a Korean Public School through EPIK..

Does anyone know if it's possible to request an age range preference at some stage during my application process? If so, at what stage in the EPIK application process do I express a specific preference?

My gut feeling is to start as an elementary school teacher but...

I'd love to get a few opinions! Smile

Which age range is the "best" to teach?
Which age group is the easiest [least work]?
Which age group is the most rewarding?

Thanks in advance!
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really depends on the person. Elementary kids learn in very different ways from adolescents, especially when it comes to languages. I can't stand teaching elementary but love secondary; other people are the opposite.

You can usually request elementary vs. middle / high, but not middle vs. high. Some districts do let you decide between various schools, however.
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verve



Joined: 02 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say go for elementary.

They are cuter, and just want to play and have fun. It's more about giving them an introduction and background to English.

I might've gone for high school for greater job satisfaction, but then you have to deal with kids who think they are too cool for school. My 6th graders are bad enough.
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gregoriomills



Joined: 02 Mar 2009
Location: Busan, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With elementary (which is what most people do), you will teaching from a textbook, probably with a co-teacher the whole time, maybe splitting the class time 50/50, maybe you just supplementing the lesson. Lots of high-energy games, etc. You will be like an English cheerleader.

Secondary (especially high school) is much more independent. You will probably be expected to lead most, if not all, the class yourself. Maybe you will have a text, maybe not. You will once again be an English cheerleader but with a crowd who is much less energetic and much more difficult to entertain.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm at a Girls MS and a Boys HS. Which is best? Couldn't really tell you. It's swings & roundabouts. Some days one, the next, the other. My MS girls are generally more receptive to what I'm trying to do and the boys can be a real PITA at times. But, and having said that, the best of them usually shine and when they do, are a pleasure to teach.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for elementary. It's the easiest because the curriculum will be in place for you. You won't need to spend so much of your own time lesson planning.

The job is easy, but I've heard HS and MS may offer more unofficial vacation time, and less teaching hours.

I like elementary school because I am able to outsmart the students (only just). I assume it may be more difficult to control older students at MS or HS. Cool
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The younger the students the easier it is to teach them. Younger students are not as sick of school as the older ones.

But there is little depth in material with young kids. I was forced to teach a couple of days of elementary school and asked not to have to go.

To my suprise I like it more and more each day. For some reason kids in China are mean to me but the kids here are nice.

Middle school is a challenge but some kids there are really good as they can have a conversation.

Too cool for school thing is growing in Korea right down to 6th grade.
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adamosity



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

high school is a survival of the fittest, for the most part.

At a MINIMUM, at most good high schools, they're on campus 13+ hours, with at least eight classes and three study periods.

Most Korean teachers strongly prefer middle school (which is different compared to the US), simply because the hours are a lot shorter. That said, Korean teachers teach more classes in MS than HS.
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ladybaby



Joined: 24 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone... Thanks so much for all of your responses.. really really helpful! So far, I think elementary will be the direction I head in. But thanks to you all...I definitely have some new info to research.. Razz Feel free to throw any other ideas or opinions my way.... & thanks again!
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ladybaby



Joined: 24 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
....You can usually request elementary vs. middle / high, but not middle vs. high. Some districts do let you decide between various schools, however.


Smile Do you by any chance know when in the EPIK application process I can request a preference? Also, I am planning to teach in Busan. Do you have any idea if the Busan district allows specific school preference as you mentioned?

Thanks! Cool
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ladybaby wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
....You can usually request elementary vs. middle / high, but not middle vs. high. Some districts do let you decide between various schools, however.


Smile Do you by any chance know when in the EPIK application process I can request a preference? Also, I am planning to teach in Busan. Do you have any idea if the Busan district allows specific school preference as you mentioned?

Thanks! Cool


No, I'm not sure, though I think the vast majority of EPIK jobs in Busan are for middle school, some at schools very far from the city centre or Haeyundae.

Last night I went out for coffee with a new teacher who's working at two elementary schools. Listening to him describe how his ears hurt and how physically exhusted he was after six straight elementary lessons in a row made me so thankful it was him and not me. And that was just after his first day teaching there!
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deepclick



Joined: 19 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to decide on the type of public school I'd like to teach at but I can't find anywhere what age students are at elementary/middle/high school etc. Could somebody please clarify for me how old students are at the various levels of school in Korea? Thanks Very Happy
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elementary: 6-12
Middle school: 13-15
High school: 16-18
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waseige1



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: It is a crap shoot Reply with quote

You can request elementary, middle or high school but it is still a crap shoot. My recruiter was very honest about this with me (esl-planet.com). During my EPIK phone interview I re-confirmed this. I wanted older kids. Some people got what they wanted (when we got here) and some did not. Request away, but there are no promises.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
Elementary: 6-12
Middle school: 13-15
High school: 16-18


Just about. Most are 12 when they enter middle school and 15 when they finish. Most are 15 when they enter HS and 18 when they graduate. The odd one is a year behind for whatever reason.
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