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nicam



Joined: 14 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: You have to come to the school first when you are sick... Reply with quote

then you may go out.

That's what my coteacher told me this morning (in addition to asking 20 stupid questions, which are so obviously not out of concern for my health) when I called her from the hospital. Then she tells me I have to bring her a receipt. Is any of this standard? I commute an hour to school each way, and the bus ride is windy enough to make a well person puke from motion sickness. WTF?

Also, I was having really scary symptoms that were identical to ovarian cyst symptoms, which turned out to be an adverse reaction to birth control, so of course the doctor gave me an ultrasound, which is all that it says on the receipt. I can't wait to see their reaction to this. It would be one thing if they understood English, and I could explain to them that I am not pregnant, etc., etc., but they don't. Haha, they are just going to see that I had an ultrasound.

I know you should choose your battles wisely in Korea, and I don't want to cause any bad blood, but I don't want to have to show them my personal health records or have to commute an hour to school when I'm sick in order to be dismissed and then commute an hour back home. That's gay.

What would you all do?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just bring them a note from the doctor and try to avoid being sick in the future.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no medical privacy here - not like in the West. I'd just give the school a receipt from the hospital - with an appointment card stapled to it.
But, they may still call the hospital and ask why you were there.

If you call and tell them you have a medical emergency (manners), and then go straight to the hospital - there should be no problem (if you show your appt card later).

Mostly, they're not being nosey - they're responsible for you (family etc), and so need to know where you are during working hours.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicam,

Read your contract. You don't have to go to the school and you don't have to show them a reciept. In fact, you don't have to give them a doctor's medical report unless you are absent for seven or more calendar days.
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gregoriomills



Joined: 02 Mar 2009
Location: Busan, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
nicam,

Read your contract. You don't have to go to the school and you don't have to show them a reciept. In fact, you don't have to give them a doctor's medical report unless you are absent for seven or more calendar days.


He speaks the truth. I think my contract actually says I don't have to show a doctor's note unless I miss 5 "working days." Most people get 10 sick days overall. Last semester, I missed two days in a row, sick. I took the second day just because I'm never sick and figured that I'd milk it... no problem. No deduction in pay, either! They really wanted to take me to the hospital, but I politely refused, saying I had already consulted with my doctor back home by phone, blah blah blah.

Only complication is that it also says in my contract that I must give lesson plans for sick days so my co-teachers can teach the class Didn't do that, but they could've made me if they really wanted to, I suppose.
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vomit into a plastic bag next time and bring it to your coteacher. Problem solved.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what i do now is send a text saying that i'm sick, with what, and that i need to rest so no visitors please and i'll be turning off my cell phone to sleep. i used to call in, but i'd get probing questions into my condition which is just plain insulting. if i'm sick, i'm sick, i don't need to explain to you, it's provided for in my contract. this probably has caused some rift between my handler and i, but i'm not overly concerned with that.
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harlowethrombey



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a new office with a coach. When I'm feeling sickly I plop down on it, pull my blanket up and put on 'The Office' on my computer.

I could call in from home, but, for some reason, just showing up at school when sick/deathly hungover seems to garner respect here. I dunno.

The only day I'm taking off is to pick up my friend at the airport (and we have mid-terms that day anyway).

Of course this is just me. If you're really sick you should stay at home/go to the hospital and dont feel guilty about it.


Give your hospital receipt to a female co-teacher you trust and explain to her that you are not preggers. Maybe she can communicate this, and you idea to keep the whole thing from becoming a rumor.

Good luck with it.
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Goku



Joined: 10 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably the hardest thing to get used to in Korea.

Being sick in Korea means you should be on your death bed.

Most people don't take up all their sick days and if they do, it's looked upon as lazy and irresponsible.

Obviously you are sick OP. But the Korean expectation is that you come to school and then THEY decide if you are sick, not self-diagnosed.

GL though OP. Hope they can understand your position. Doesn't make much sense to travel out 1 hour and take 1 hour back.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K-teachers at my PS call in sick all the time. They even call in when their kids or parents get sick. But when FTs call in sick, they think you're either lying or hung-over from last night's dope party.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

harlowethrombey wrote:
I got a new office with a coach. When I'm feeling sickly I plop down on it, pull my blanket up and put on 'The Office' on my computer.

I could call in from home, but, for some reason, just showing up at school when sick/deathly hungover seems to garner respect here. I dunno.

The only day I'm taking off is to pick up my friend at the airport (and we have mid-terms that day anyway).

Of course this is just me. If you're really sick you should stay at home/go to the hospital and dont feel guilty about it.


Give your hospital receipt to a female co-teacher you trust and explain to her that you are not preggers. Maybe she can communicate this, and you idea to keep the whole thing from becoming a rumor.

Good luck with it.


i tried dragging myself in to work one time, thinking the teachers would just let me rest or send me home (i had a cold and had lost my voice). instead i taught every class that day through a series of squeaks and gestures. the only thing one of my co-teachers did was let me finish class 10 minutes early. lesson learnt, never again!
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
nicam,

Read your contract. You don't have to go to the school and you don't have to show them a reciept. In fact, you don't have to give them a doctor's medical report unless you are absent for seven or more calendar days.


Korean culture over-rides the contract.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
cruisemonkey wrote:
nicam,

Read your contract. You don't have to go to the school and you don't have to show them a reciept. In fact, you don't have to give them a doctor's medical report unless you are absent for seven or more calendar days.


Korean culture over-rides the contract.


Only if you let it.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: You have to come to the school first when you are sick.. Reply with quote

nicam wrote:
then you may go out.

That's what my coteacher told me this morning (in addition to asking 20 stupid questions, which are so obviously not out of concern for my health) when I called her from the hospital. Then she tells me I have to bring her a receipt. Is any of this standard? I commute an hour to school each way, and the bus ride is windy enough to make a well person puke from motion sickness. WTF?

Also, I was having really scary symptoms that were identical to ovarian cyst symptoms, which turned out to be an adverse reaction to birth control, so of course the doctor gave me an ultrasound, which is all that it says on the receipt. I can't wait to see their reaction to this. It would be one thing if they understood English, and I could explain to them that I am not pregnant, etc., etc., but they don't. Haha, they are just going to see that I had an ultrasound.

I know you should choose your battles wisely in Korea, and I don't want to cause any bad blood, but I don't want to have to show them my personal health records or have to commute an hour to school when I'm sick in order to be dismissed and then commute an hour back home. That's gay.

What would you all do?


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Kea Joenee



Joined: 09 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

first off, OP, don't say "that's gay" when you mean stupid or unfair. What if people used a slur like the n-word to describe situations they don't like.

Anyway, they won't fire you over this. Just don't show up. Call at least, say you're sick, then hang up. You're going to get a spectrum of work situations. My old gig was so so nice, a real rarity. They just sent me home early on the only sick day I took.

On the other hand, my new boss is a self-appointed physician who also demands not just a visit receipt but the doctor's diagnosis right in the contract.
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