Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

About blogs and photos of students
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
dporter



Joined: 26 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: About blogs and photos of students Reply with quote

In a previous life I taught at a university in China. All my students were 18+ and I occasionally took photos of my classes.

While looking over many blogs of teachers in Korea I've noticed a great deal of photos of students who are as young as maybe 6 years old.

For those teachers who blog and post photos of students in these early grades - have you ever considered the privacy of the students and/or the parents wishes?

I dont mean to be critical. Its just that my current job is research focused and we could never get by with taking a photo of someone without getting some form of consent.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the school never asks permission when putting pics up on its website do you need to? Lots of Korean teachers do it without ever asking permission. It's just not a big deal here.

As for the fears of a less innocent west, if it's on an English website it's far less likely a predator in Korea would ever happen to come across it than on a school website, don't you think?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rory_Calhoun27



Joined: 14 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: About blogs and photos of students Reply with quote

dporter wrote:


I dont mean to be critical. Its just that my current job is research focused and we could never get by with taking a photo of someone without getting some form of consent.


Jealous, huh?

Given the number of cellphones I see whipped out at a moments' notice, I wonder if anyone here actually takes privacy a concern.

though I can see the advantages of such matters to your garden variety upskirter.... talk about a culture catering to a fetish!

As for not meaning to be critical- just a happy accident, I suppose! Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you think newspapers in North America get permission from every person they put in the newspaper? No. It might be courteous for them to ask first, but they don't have to.

If I remember correctly from my media law class in journalism school, the law is that if you are in a public place when a photo is taken, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. If you are in a private place when the photo is taken of you (such as your home), then you may have a case against the publication of your picture. But I think there have been very few successful cases in Canada. I seem to remember discussing a case of a girl sitting on her front porch when a photo was taken of her as one successful case.

I think if the picture is used for commercial purposes without permission, such as for an ad, then you might be able to sue them.

But these are Western rules...I don't know about the rules in Korea. Given what I've seen about their laid back attitude towards privacy, I would think that there would be no rules.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rarely take photos, but when I do (even if it is just a statue or a building) I make sure people can see me doing it. If they object, they can always move. I don't take pictures immediately, so they have enough time to remove themselves.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
WendyRose



Joined: 10 Dec 2008
Location: hanam-si, seoul

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've thought about this before but came to the conclusion that it's okay. According to intellectual property law, it's 100% legal until you make a profit off of someone else's name/face/etc. And even then, the only thing stopping you is a contract. If you are that concerned, type up a mini contract and have your students' parents sign it.

And honestly, I don't know how the laws work on an international level.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
dporter



Joined: 26 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Mac wrote:
Do you think newspapers in North America get permission from every person they put in the newspaper? No. It might be courteous for them to ask first, but they don't have to.

If I remember correctly from my media law class in journalism school, the law is that if you are in a public place when a photo is taken, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. If you are in a private place when the photo is taken of you (such as your home), then you may have a case against the publication of your picture.



Agreed. A child playing in the park is in a public space. A child playing in the classroom is not.

Rory_Calhoun27 wrote:


Jealous, huh?


Nope. Taking a pic of an Korean kid is easy. No talent needed to make them look cute. I was just making an observation.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would consider a classroom a public place.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Robot_Teacher



Joined: 18 Feb 2009
Location: Robotting Around the World

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, they think nothing of sending national KBS out on very last minute notice to do video on foreigners trying to speak Korean and teach English. Photographing and video recording people at work, school, and in public is not a big deal in Korea.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
I rarely take photos, but when I do (even if it is just a statue or a building) I make sure people can see me doing it. If they object, they can always move. I don't take pictures immediately, so they have enough time to remove themselves.


I like how OTHER people have to move for you. You don't move not to get them in the shot. You demand that they move if they do not wish to be photographed. Sweet.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Mac wrote:
I would consider a classroom a public place.


Especially in Korea where solicitors come in and interrupt a 6th grade class to sell colon cleanser.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
I would consider a classroom a public place.


Especially in Korea where solicitors come in and interrupt a 6th grade class to sell colon cleanser.


I'd kill to have salesmen take up my "valuable" time. Twisted Evil
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only reason I video my students is to demonstrate their performance to the Boss, who is genuinely concerned with how they are doing and interested in my job (I prefer bosses like this). I've never seen a reason to photograph them.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChinaBoy wrote:
MollyBloom wrote:
Especially in Korea where solicitors come in and interrupt a 6th grade class to sell colon cleanser.

I'd kill to have salesmen take up my "valuable" time. Twisted Evil

I don't understand where these stories come from. If someone did that in my hakwon, they would not leave under their own power. I found one guy handing out tickets to Mama Mia and I bodily moved him to the Boss's office (with the boss inside) and closed the door on them both. Neither of them were happy, but at least the Old Man understands that if I see a reason that he could possibly be sued, I will address that situation immediately.

It's one of the reasons I'm still here, and the main reason I won't work for anybody else.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:
ChinaBoy wrote:
MollyBloom wrote:
Especially in Korea where solicitors come in and interrupt a 6th grade class to sell colon cleanser.

I'd kill to have salesmen take up my "valuable" time. Twisted Evil

I don't understand where these stories come from. If someone did that in my hakwon, they would not leave under their own power. I found one guy handing out tickets to Mama Mia and I bodily moved him to the Boss's office (with the boss inside) and closed the door on them both. Neither of them were happy, but at least the Old Man understands that if I see a reason that he could possibly be sued, I will address that situation immediately.

It's one of the reasons I'm still here, and the main reason I won't work for anybody else.


Well, usually in my classes if that happens, the homeroom teacher takes care of it and throws them out. If they come in our office, the other subject teachers are really rude to them and they eventually leave. I just ignore them.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International