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Am I due commission if I get a teacher employed?
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nev



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
Location: ch7t

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 12:45 am    Post subject: Am I due commission if I get a teacher employed? Reply with quote

My school will soon have a vacancy for a teacher, and I've a friend who's interested. If I recommend my friend to the school and they employ him, would I be due any commission on it?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are entitled to squat unless you make an agreement with your employer to arrange a commission BEFORE introducing the applicant. If your employer has other candidates in mind then you won't be offered anything. But if your employer is interested in who you might recommend, then offer to help for a fee.

Your next question should be: What's the going rate on commissions?
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nev



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, ok, what's the going rate on commissions?
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prairieboy



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vanislander is right. Make an agreement before actually introducing your friend.

As for a rate, I would suggest a figure around 600,000 won minimum (give or take, it's up to you). Recruiter fees can be as high or more than 1,000,000. At least the recruiter my old school used charges over 1,000,000 for every placement.

Good luck and beware.

It's extra cash for you but if something doesn't turn out right, then it may be your butt on the line
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Guest





PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offense, but what that really a serious question ??
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osangrl



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Location: osan

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i talked a person into coming to my last school and i got 500, 000.
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SweetBear



Joined: 18 May 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask for money or extra vacation time. Be firm but polite. Expect to get only some of what you ask for. Meet your employer half way. Smile. Smile
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: Am I due commission if I get a teacher employed? Reply with quote

nev wrote:
My school will soon have a vacancy for a teacher, and I've a friend who's interested. If I recommend my friend to the school and they employ him, would I be due any commission on it?


First, I did that...that is, brought my buddy over. However, I wasn't employed by this school.

My opinion is that you should not ask for money. It'd be sweet to have a buddy come over and share the experience with you. It'd be (at least for me) a larger gain for you, than your boss. Also, by doing this, you will also gain favor and may increase your chances of getting a great letter of rec. (if you want to move on up to the east-side).

Shoosh,

Ryst

PS: The rate was (when I did it, and helped others) 1/2 of first month's pay....or about 800,000 <whichever is less Wink>
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL !

Never heard of or known anyone to recieve such a thing in my time teaching in N.E. Asia.
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO wrote:
LOL !

Never heard of or known anyone to recieve such a thing in my time teaching in N.E. Asia.


Well, now you have...at least over t/here. Simply, the school/new teacher saves money on not going through a head hunter (who charges equal or greater), and may save loads of time and hassle.

Shoosh,

Ryst
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know why some people find that the notion of teachers receiving the recruitment fee is far-fetched. I did it 3 times when I was employed with a large school, and I know of other teachers who have done the same. Just agree, beforehand, to a fee that is in line with or (if your director wants to negotiate) a little less than the going rate of recruiters nowadays, which is 900,000-1,000,000.
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chronicpride wrote:
Just agree, beforehand, to a fee that is in line with or (if your director wants to negotiate) a little less than the going rate of recruiters nowadays, which is 900,000-1,000,000.


Why ask for what a recruiter would charge? A recruiter lines up the work visa, buys the air ticket, gets the paperwork in order, and guarantees a refund if the teacher in question doesn't work out or little-to-no charge to replace the teacher.

It's a comparison between apples and oranges.
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Guest





PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a big difference between a beforehand agreement on bringing in new teachers at your facility versus an assumption that you should get some money because you do. I still find it funny and think it is a far stretch .... but that's me. And do you give the money back if the teacher you bring quits or is fired or otherwise let go prior to a contract completion ?
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most recruiters don't offer such a guarantee- why should a teacher?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that is a "no" ?

Many recruiters DO have clauses in the recruiter/employer contract for some sort of fix on a teacher leaving - such as providing another teacher at no fee if the teacher leaves prior to 3 months or so on .... I've asked for and seen those contract and demand on it from a recriter. Most refuse until I say thank you and goodbye.

If you want free money for taking 3 seconds to tell a friend or someone to apply for a job at a particular place then you should also have the so-called honor to stick by that person staying. If you've misjudged someone and they are fired or otherwise unsuitable it is professional of you to admit the failure and return the money.

I want nothing to do with "recruiting" and thus would never involve myself in such a thing or even expect it, but that seems the proper thing to do.

But we all know how well proper goes over here.
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