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Caesar1313
Joined: 03 Apr 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:05 am Post subject: Missing $10 from wire transfers. |
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| I've wired money home a few times now and I've noticed $10 is missing the last couple times. I didn't pay attention the times before so it's possible it was missing then too. I transfer from Hana bank to Scotiabank in Canada. Hana bank takes its wire fee as a separate transaction and the receipt last time said X amount of dollars was sent. On the scotiabank side the money deposited is missing $10 then they take another $10 as a fee. I've talked to both banks and both blame the other side, I also called Scotiabanks office in Seoul and the guy said they only deal with business not personal banking. Really getting frustrated here knowing I am being ripped off. Anyone else have this problem? |
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Stones1962
Joined: 26 Nov 2008 Location: Europe/Asia
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Banks screw us every day of the week....they will take their fee on both ends...
wire your funds every 3 months...that should save you 80$ a year |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| Stones1962 wrote: |
Banks screw us every day of the week....they will take their fee on both ends...
wire your funds every 3 months...that should save you 80$ a year |
Good advice.
These Korean banks are not to be trusted.  |
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Caesar1313
Joined: 03 Apr 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| Stones1962 wrote: |
Banks screw us every day of the week....they will take their fee on both ends...
wire your funds every 3 months...that should save you 80$ a year |
I'd like to but for now I'm not in a financial position to do so, so for a while I have to send money home monthly to make bill payments... sucks. |
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losing_touch

Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Location: Ulsan - I think!
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| That fee appears to come from the intermediary bank that is involved in the transaction. This is the nature of finance. They are the middle man involved with your money, and you better believe they don't do it for free. |
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Yesterday

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| wylies99 wrote: |
| Stones1962 wrote: |
Banks screw us every day of the week....they will take their fee on both ends...
wire your funds every 3 months...that should save you 80$ a year |
Good advice.
These Korean banks are not to be trusted.  |
Good on ya Wylies99!! Scare people with trash about Korean banks not to be trusted! Like we really trust American banks??
The OP is sending money via the Hana Bank to the Scotiabank in Canada.
The Scotiabank charges a fee to receive and process the international funds transfer.
Unless the Hana bank has a direct affiliation with the Scotiabank in Canada, the funds will not be sent directly to the OP's Scotiabank, but through another intermediary bank in Canada. When this occurs, the intermediary bank ALSO charges a fee.
Neither the Korean bank, nor the Scotiabank can advise what the fee may be as they do not have access to that information.
If the OP is so worried about $10 - it is best for the OP to select a Korean bank that does have a direct relationship with the Scotiabank in Canada.
OP - ask your bank (the Scotiabank in Canada) what Korean banks they have an affiliation/relationship with. Then use THAT Korean bank - and you will no longer lose that $10. |
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bobbybigfoot
Joined: 05 May 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:50 am Post subject: |
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I use KEB and send money to Scotiabank as well. Same thing happens to me. An extra $10 vanishes each time, over and above the wire charges I pay to KEB, and the $10 I pay to Scotiabank.
Like the above poster, I believe there's a third party involved, a middleman, who's taking his cut. How nice that this can be done without ever letting us know.
International banking is lame. With today's computers, wire charges should be nominal and money should be transferred automatically.
Instead we pay around $50 plus the juice on the exchange rate, and still we have to wait 24 hours or more to see our money. Lame. |
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the ireland

Joined: 11 May 2008 Location: korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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when i sent money home to ireland, i paid nonghyup about 8,000 won or so but my irish bank doesn't charge me to receive money in my account so i didn't get charged there, however the money had to go through a bank in germany, who then forwarded to my irish bank. the german bank took a �20 hit on me every time i sent money home.
The bank back home told me it had something to do with the korean bank not having a euro account so they send it to an affiliate bank that does have one, unfortunatly for me, my bank was not affiliated with them so i got deducted the money.
I only sent money home afew timesper year because of it.ifihad of sent every month i''d have been robbed of �280 plus the charge in korea....why would i give them money for hitting a button on a computer?? |
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Kikomom

Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Ask any Italian, it's called the 'rub off'. Ever since banking was invented in Florence during the Renaissance, anytime money changes hands some rubs off. |
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D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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If sending money to Canada make sure you send it in Canadian dollars. You should only lose 10 dollars after paying the Korean bank their fee.
If you are losing 20 bucks you are getting scammed.
I use Nonhyup |
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Nierlisse

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it's most likely an intermediary bank. I'm surprised no one at your bank in Canada knew that. It might be because your Korean bank can't send Canadian dollars, so they have to send it to another bank to convert it.
My bank in the US is too small to do international wires; so we send/recieve them through JP Morgan Chase. And Chase DOES take money off the top. And we get our foreign currency exchange rates from Chase as well. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I know KB uses Bank Of America as their intermediary bank. BOA charges 10US$ a pop.
I get nailed here, in the middle, and at the other end, without so much as a complimentary reach-around. |
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OculisOrbis

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I also lose the $10 intermediary fee. I use KEB to send money to TD-Canada Trust. After making some calls, I found out the intermediary bank that was taking my $10 dollars was KEB in Canada. So I Pay KEB in Korea a commission to exchange and wire my money to themselves in Canada, where I am charged another $10 by their own Canadian branch to send my money to the requested account at TD.
Just curious if anyone else has discovered who their intermediary bank is and if they are also being double charged by the same bank for one service? |
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A46220
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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I am also very curious about this. I just sent home $500 (from KEB) a couple of days ago and only $480 acutally made it into my U.S. account (Chase). Then I get charged another $15 dollar foreign wire transfer fee by Chase. This is all on top of whatever KEB is charging in ₩ before the money is ever exchanged into U.S. dollars.
Does anyone know what intermediary KEB uses when money is sent to the U.S. (specifically to Chase)? My girlfriend also sent money from KEB to USAA and was missing $18 at the end. |
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tigercat

Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
I also lose the $10 intermediary fee. I use KEB to send money to TD-Canada Trust. After making some calls, I found out the intermediary bank that was taking my $10 dollars was KEB in Canada. So I Pay KEB in Korea a commission to exchange and wire my money to themselves in Canada, where I am charged another $10 by their own Canadian branch to send my money to the requested account at TD.
Just curious if anyone else has discovered who their intermediary bank is and if they are also being double charged by the same bank for one service? |
I was so pissed the first time it happened to me. I sent via Nonghyup to HSBC, and found out later that TD was the intermediary bank. Banks are stupid.  |
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