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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: Gangnam
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 Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: Please critique job offer so far. |
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I got back in touch with the woman I used to work for because she told me if I ever wanted to return she'd hire me. I had a very pleasant experience working for her and, based on that, would probably work for her again. I contacted her, let her know I was going to be coming back and did she have need of a teacher. She replied that she did.
She sent me an email yesterday to discuss salary. Here's what she said:
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I think we should talk about salary.
How much would you like to get for your salary?
I would you offer around 2.000.000 won + national
pension that would be 90.000 won and i used to take 5% tax but i will take 3% tax so totally you would get 2.100.000 approximately
You will get the national pension when you go home.
You pay for national pension 4.5% of your salary and i pay
4.5% but like i mentioned before you will get that right after your contract. It's like savings.
I want to know your idea. |
I replied to her, asking what the hours were at this new school (previously I worked for her at a different location so am not familiar with the schedule at this one) and she replied back, apparently misunderstanding my question. She said:
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He gets 2.100,00won but doesn't get national pention.
but he has 5 year teaching experience. |
I'm guessing this is another person she's thinking of hiring or that already works for her. I thought pension was mandatory? And can she just not pay someone's pension? Why would someone agree to a low salary and no pension? Also, did the tax rate drop? When I was there before, from '05 to '07, I could swear the tax rate was 5%. Are hogwon owners allowed to reduce the rate arbitrarily or was there a change in policy?
My concern is that I need to be sending about a grand a month home to cover expenses I have here and with the won devalued to the dollar, I need to be making about 2.4 in order to leave myself about a million won to live off of here. I have just shy of two years experience so far and I'm wondering if I should try to talk her up or just look at different offers.
Thoughts?
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ThomasR
Joined: 31 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:11 am Post subject: |
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She is trying to pull a fast one on you. Firstly, that tax rate is WAY to high. Secondly, she has to pay into pension. That guy is going to be pissed. What she is doing is illegal.
You can easily find a job with past experience that will get you A LOT better. She sounds like one shady character. Best not to even deal with her. Start looking around. Good luck! |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Please critique job offer so far. |
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I got back in touch with the woman I used to work for because she told me if I ever wanted to return she'd hire me. I had a very pleasant experience working for her and, based on that, would probably work for her again. I contacted her, let her know I was going to be coming back and did she have need of a teacher. She replied that she did.
She sent me an email yesterday to discuss salary. Here's what she said:
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I think we should talk about salary.
How much would you like to get for your salary?
I would you offer around 2.000.000 won + national
pension that would be 90.000 won and i used to take 5% tax but i will take 3% tax so totally you would get 2.100.000 approximately
You will get the national pension when you go home.
You pay for national pension 4.5% of your salary and i pay
4.5% but like i mentioned before you will get that right after your contract. It's like savings.
I want to know your idea. |
I replied to her, asking what the hours were at this new school (previously I worked for her at a different location so am not familiar with the schedule at this one) and she replied back, apparently misunderstanding my question. She said:
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He gets 2.100,00won but doesn't get national pention.
but he has 5 year teaching experience. |
I'm guessing this is another person she's thinking of hiring or that already works for her. I thought pension was mandatory? And can she just not pay someone's pension? Why would someone agree to a low salary and no pension? Also, did the tax rate drop? When I was there before, from '05 to '07, I could swear the tax rate was 5%. Are hogwon owners allowed to reduce the rate arbitrarily or was there a change in policy?
My concern is that I need to be sending about a grand a month home to cover expenses I have here and with the won devalued to the dollar, I need to be making about 2.4 in order to leave myself about a million won to live off of here. I have just shy of two years experience so far and I'm wondering if I should try to talk her up or just look at different offers.
Thoughts?
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My thoughts:
1) You should be able to get at least 2.3 million with experience these days, and maybe 2.5 or more. So, the salary is no deal.
2) Everyone is supposed to pay into the National Pension plan according to Korean law. Of course, maybe this other teacher is from a country that can't get the money back, or has other reasons to work underground.
As for what she is offering you. She is offering to NOT deduct your 4.5% and to hand you her 4.5% in cash at the end. That means she will not be signing you up for pension and not paying in your income tax and you will not have the national health insurance either.
3) This old employer cheated you on income tax during your first stint with her. The rate should be according to the NTS website, but probably around 2%. It's progressive, so your proper withholding depends on your income level. See link:
http://www.nts.go.kr/eng/help/help_52.asp?top_code=H001&sub_code=HS05&ssub_code=HSE2
So, she deducted 5% of your pay and kept it for herself the first time around.
4) You should NOT go back to this old job. You can make more, and get your taxes, pension, and health insurance deducted and provided legally and properly.
5) Did you get your severance the first time around? Is it being offered this time? I'll bet you missed that one too. |
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AbbeFaria
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:26 am Post subject: |
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I thought it sounded shady. I didn't get the pension last time but I broke my contract so it's no big deal. I left about 5 months early when I found out I was having a kid back in the states. A friend of mine said he might be able to hook me up with a Uni job in Daegu so I may head that route.
It's a shame, she was a good boss and was very flexible on a lot of things. When I told her that I had to return to the states she let me use the ticket she had already purchased if I would just pay half. It got me home for about 800 bucks instead of shelling out 2 grand out of pocket for a new ticket.
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| She's only a good boss 'cos she takes advantage of you and you except it. |
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